Kate plans a special day with Collin, Joel and Aaden and takes them to explore the USS North Carolina battleship. Later, she takes the boys for haircuts.
Battleship & Barber – New Episode
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33 Responses to Battleship & Barber – New Episode
This is the first time Kate has ever spent a day with just the boys? They are five years old! There is no justification for this behavior and it speaks volumes about how little attention they have received from her for all these years.
I don’t know if it is the first day she ever spent with the boys. I don’t see that written in the post. I can come up with a justification for why a mother of eight children, six of whom are the exact same age, would not have spent an entire day with a particular combination of three. It mostly has to do with the existence of the other five children, three of whom are the exact same age.
I guess having come from a family of eight children close in age, and having an excellent mother who never spent an entire day with just three of us, might give me a special insight into how that is possible. I can assure you, Reggie, if it is true that Kate has never had the pleasure of spending an entire day with Aaden, Colin, and Joel, it does not necessarily speak volumes about anything. I think you are jumping to a conclusion that is unfair to mothers of large families.
I think what we have here is an example of one of the benefits of having the TV show, not the opposite. My mother never got to take “just” her three boys to tour a battleship. They didn’t have TLC back then.
I think there is lots of evidence just on the show that the boys get plenty of attention from Kate. It’s not required that she do stuff alone with them (though it’s nice that she has a chance to now).
But Kate thinks boys are “icky”! She puts them on the cold, bathroom floor! She’ll throw them out to sea!
I agree Jennie. I think the boys do get plenty of attention from Kate and it is indeed nice that she gets the chance to do stuff with them now.
Ann, great post and point about TLC Yes, TLC has provided that chance. I’m sure she’s grateful for it and soaking it up and cherishing it as well.
it amazes me that someone can take a single statement where kate said that boys were icky and dirty and think that means she doesn’t love her boys and never wants to spend time with them.
and yet, all the times on the show when kate hugged and loved on and kissed nad snuggled and played with the boys is ignored.
i also think there is nothing wrong with kate just now spending time alone wiht her boys. has hse with her 3 littlest girls? i think she will do this more with them as they get older. it makes sense to me. of course i’m not looking for things to jump on the *i hate kate* bandwagon either….
Reggie, the only fact in your statement is that the boys are 5 years old. All the rest is your opinion. Some, if not most, of us have an opinion
that is different than yours.
it amazes me that someone can take a single statement where kate said that boys were icky and dirty and think that means she doesn’t love her boys and never wants to spend time with them
Kimmie, I was just joking. Thus, the
I hope you knew that.
I am one who has always said Kate loves her boys just as much as her girls and have defended her in the past.
Hi everyone.
Kate was able to get rid of the paps today. I hope they stay away. It is just too invasive for the kids not to be able to step out their front door.
Kate’s chasing them away and laying low. Jon was out w/a pap last night and was seen leaving a party w/2 ladies per MSNBC.
I’m watching tonight. I think it’ll be cute w/the boys.
Now, if she can just find a way to keep Jon from going down and talking to them. I saw a video, I forget where, of paps trying to talk to Kate after the cop incident, and she just ignored them.
I know she gives a lot of interviews, but she isn’t encouraging anyone to hang around her by
giving impromptu talks in front of her home, or out at the gas station.
I never bought into the Kate hates the boys (boys are a bit ichy … like to get messy, rough house….), or that Kate’s favorite was Hannah. Parents have different relationships with their kids. Boys do tend to gravitate to their dads and girls to their moms… though that’s a general, not specific statement. I do more things with my daugher and my husband does more with my son, but we love them both the same. I relate better to her “moods” and he relates better to his “moods”. So much attention payed to picking apart a family none of us know personally. I applaud Kate for venturing out (even if it is with a film crew), taking the boys or girls out on her own has got a be a bit of work.
Several excellent points have been made here, but I want to echo the idea that it’s ok that Kate have a slightly different relationship with her boys than her girls (or with each individual child for that matter). Kate has never hidden the fact that she is a girly-girl. She likes girl things and doesn’t have a natural inclination to do some of the more rough and tumble stuff that many (again, not all) boys enjoy.
If there is anything positive about this divorce, I think it is that Kate is being forced to leave her comfort zone and try things she previously thought she wouldn’t enjoy. The latest People magazine feature on Kate addresses specifically the trip Kate and boys took to a dude ranch and that Kate really enjoyed firing a gun, riding a horse, etc. While I don’t think the way she behaved prior to the separation (letting Jon handle the boys activities more) was wrong, I do think it’s very positive that the boys are seeing their mother try new things and be adventurous.
Thanks for the link, Lily!
yes theresa i knew that.
i knew you were imitating the constant refrain of others…lol.
i thought the show was really cute tonight.i loved when joel told kate he liked her. that was so sweet. and should help put to rest the opinions that her kids are afraid of her or don’t like to be with her…if those who have that opinion will let it..lol.
my last statement was not meant for most of us here…lol.
I thought the show was cute, too Kimmie. And, I thought it was funny how Jon’s Ed Hardy wear was blurred out. Hee Hee
I’m sure others will be finding fault in a lot of what they see. It’s actually quite comical, until you see the evil ones that cross the line to borderline criminal.
If there is anything positive about this divorce, I think it is that Kate is being forced to leave her comfort zone and try things she previously thought she wouldn’t enjoy. The latest People magazine feature on Kate addresses specifically the trip Kate and boys took to a dude ranch and that Kate really enjoyed firing a gun, riding a horse, etc. While I don’t think the way she behaved prior to the separation (letting Jon handle the boys activities more) was wrong, I do think it’s very positive that the boys are seeing their mother try new things and be adventurous.
ITA. I have always been more or less supportive of Kate, but I recognized her tendency to depend on Jon too much for certain things (things that seemed to make her anxious). Maybe she’ll get a little more relaxed on the gender roles thing, which is also a mild issue I’ve had with her in the past.
I agree with those of you who thought it was a cute show. I did too. Cara in the air on those ropes was impressive.
I also thought it was fun when Kate and the boys turned the gun thing right at the pap’s camera. I have never seen a military ship except for movie settings.
Theresa, yep, Jon looks like a walking smudge w/the EH blurred out.
Yes! I thought that it was a very good show; however, I did not enjoy listening to anything that Jon had to say. I agree with Theresa and had a good laugh every time one of Jon’s Ed Hardy ensembles got blurred out…it WAS almost comical in a way that his little plans to gain an endorsement were somewhat shattered. I hope that TLC IS making his life more difficult…IMO, he deserves every bit of it.
As I was telling my daughter tonight, where I used to get uncomfortable about the way Kate talked to Jon, etc. ~ now, I can see where she had no choice but to keep him on a VERY tight leash because he obviously has very poor decision making skills when left to his own devices!
Okay, just for fun…
Here’s my prediction for Jon. He will be cut off from the show and his kids because of his behavior. He’ll miss the kids terribly and snap out of this downward spiral, realize what a jerk he was, dump the hoes and flavors of the week. He’ll be more involved in his church, and will accept a spot on the 10th season of Dancing with the Stars.
I think Jon Gosselin is making his own life more difficult. I was relieved to see him acting relatively “normal” (like the old Jon) with the girls at the climbing course. He’s their dad. They love him.
I enjoyed the show. Kate was great with the boys .. sweet and fun. It is clear that the kids love her no matter what the Haters say.
I did feel bad for Mady at the place Jon took the twins. She was bored and he should look for things to do with them together that both girls like. The ropes courses and things like that should be saved for when Cara has a day alone with Jon.
I thought the show was kinda ok. Trip shows to me are boring. I do think it was interesting that the description of the show totally left out Jon/Cara/Mady time at the go-cart/ rock-climb place and wonder if that was on purpose by TLC to minimize him. Like the EH blurring stuff. It is kind of funny to watch.
I actually almost didn’t watch because the battleship/ haircut description seemed very boring. Seeing Jon with the girls was kind of a bonus. I do think he really enjoys his time with the kids. I also thought the place he took them had plenty to do for both girls.
This summer, we have been trying to not exclude based on gender. My daughter has been happy to stay home with me when my husband took my son to a Reds game. But I think because she sees that as boy time. But the game is fun for both genders IMO. I find it hard to balance alone time with kids, without excluding our daughter from events and she thinks they are boy activities (like fishing). So we’ve been trying to do those activities as a family too, to balance out the individual time we have with them, so she doesn’t grow up to see a boys’ world separate from her.
I really like this new Kate! Camping with the kids, toasting marsh mellows, taking the boys on an outing…..and did anyone else notice the ice cream dripping on the boys after the Barber shop? I loved it, she let it happen and didn’t freak out! I hate to see couples split up but I think this is what it took to see Kate leave her comfort zone. I hope she takes a couple of years before finding another man so that she can continue this stepping out of her comfort zone. The kids will look back on this and know that she was the one that was truly there for them. I can’t stand Jon on the show anymore and wish they would just do without him.
Good for Kate calling the police on the paps! I’m so glad she did that! You go girl!
Theresa, you made me laugh out loud again with your “Dancing with the Stars” comment!!haha I needed that today!
Paige, I agree with you and felt really sorry for Mady. She barely smiled throughout the entire episode. Having lived through it myself, I couldn’t help thinking that those poor girls probably have SO many questions and issues going on all at the same time.
My dad cheated on my mom and left us when I was about their age. We saw him every other weekend and I recall DREADING those visits simply because I had so many questions but didn’t want to address them for fear of making things worse or more “final.” I held out hope that they would get back together even into my teen years. Then years later (and a little bit today) I also struggled with a strange sort of “guilt” when I would accidentally call my Stepdad, “Dad” in front of my father.
I just wish that Jon would WAKE UP and do anything and everything to stop this before it’s too late. I know that Kate has ownership in this divorce as well, but we have to give her credit for handling this in a classy way.
In other news, I JUST saw an interview on E! of Hailey Glassman…YUCK! is all I have to say about THAT!! Lord, help those Gosselin kids!
theresa except for the dancing wit the stars thing i hope your prediction comes true! and that he and kate can forgive and reconcile and make a family for those cute kids!
here’s the thing…last night i went to a restaurant drive-thru that i frequent. i knew the two gals who were working the window and while i waited we talked. the older one asked me what i thought about a guy (young in his 20′s) spending time hanging out with his ex gf. she was talking about the younger girl at the window who’s boyfriend was at the hospital (her dad went to the er for a hernia) and then the house of his ex gf (playing ds) while his girlfriend was at work. said he was trying to be nice to his ex who needed someone. the girlfriend was hut and mad.
my answer was this: i have a 22 year old son. if he told me he was going to do that or had done it this is what i would say to him *son you are not her support system anymore. this could cause a lot of emotional problems with her and a lot of temptation for you and jealousy for your girlfriend which could mean the end of your relationship. if she has no one (friends, relatives) i wuld be more than happy to go sit with her and comfort and support her and pray with her.*
i bring that up because i think immaturity lends itself to bad decisions and choices and this seems to me like what jon is doing now. of course it makes a huge difference that he is 32 and a father. he knows how to be responsible…and i don’t think there is any excuse for him to suddenly choose not to be. if he is being immature now it is a choice for him.
I am so glad to have found this site, first I stumbled onto the GWOP site but that kind of site is not for me.
I liked the latest episode although I could do without ever seeing Jon on camera again. Kate and the boys seemed to really enjoy spending time together. She has really lightened up, I’m not sure if that is because of every thing that has recently happened in the their private lives or because the kids are getting older and she doesn’t have to do so much for them anymore.
Welcome, stxmom. There are tabloid reports that Jon may be trying to get out of his TLC contract so he can do another reality show about divorced dads. I hope he keeps it classy, if true.
I watched the show, not sure I am adjusting to the new “seperate family”. I actually enjoyed seeing how Jon and Kate intereacted. Made me see all couples bicker… haha. Loved the smudge Jon! For me the worst part was Mady. It was a great adventure for Cara, but Mady isn’t Cara and Jon didn’t think of both girls. I hope he does better in the future.
Since when is TLC necessary as the Great benefactor, to make it possible for anyone to spend time with their kids on a battleship? All kinds of other people were there, on their own time, on their own dime, without TLC being necessary to “make it possible.” I come from a family of 6, we didn’t do this kind of thing for 30 episodes a year, however, we did get to do things and didn’t have to have a voyeur following us around in order to justify doing it. These kids weren’t living under a bridge before TLC came along, I think they’ll be fine when this show goes away, I hope their parents will still want to do fun things with them even if they aren’t getting $75,000 to do so.
I did like that Kate seems much less harpy-ish when Jon’s not around, and the kids seemed happy enough to be spending a day with their mom. I didn’t watch the haircuts as I have two boys of my own whose exciting back-to-school haircuts I was able to watch in person Sunday!
I dropped out from watching about midway thru season 4, fearing just such a train wreck. Now that the Major Irritant is gone maybe we will see a different side of Kate as the kids get older and easier to handle, and the big pain in the neck is off doing his own thing and not driving her blood pressure up. She might actually start to seem likeable again.
Sadstateofaffairs said, “Since when is TLC necessary as the Great benefactor, to make it possible for anyone to spend time with their kids on a battleship?”
Sadstate, I hope you didn’t take my response to Reggie to mean that TLC was necessary for people to visit battleships. I don’t believe that, so I won’t defend the statement. I grew up in a family of 8 kids, so I am well-aware that large families do not require TV shows to visit battleships, lol. My point was that it is unfair to bash Kate because she has never before taken her three boys anywhere alone. Why? 1. We don’t know she hasn’t. 2. My own excellent mother did not get to take her three boys to tour anything without also taking some of us girls with her. The point: There are lots of good reasons a good mother might not have vacationed with just 3/8 of her children alone. The other 5/8 of the children are the reasons.
I agree Ann, I wasn’t arguing with you so much as just the idea that TLC is the reason these people do stuff with their kids. They did stuff before with their kids altho it was cheaper stuff, but just as much fun for the kids – the trip to Hershey land (or whatever it’s called!) the trip to the tree farm, the pumpkin carving. I felt so empathetic for Kate trying to let the 6 little ones have the same experiences she gave the twins, and soldiering thru it even though it’d have been so easy to just say “we can’t” because there were too many of them and they were too little, because she wanted them to have that but probably more so, didn’t want to deprive the big girls of what she felt was their due, even if it was a bit of a hellish experience to shove strollers thru a Xmas tree park with 6 little monkeys. Same with the apple picking.
The trip to the tree farm, though, had me alternately in laughter and tears “Fix the hat of Aaden! Fix the hat of Joel! Put Alexis in Mady’s lap!” as she frantically tried to get one good photo with all 8 kids in it. I laughed at that – I get my tree at Safeway and my hat’s off to her, and Jon, for trying to give their kids, hard as it is, some kind of traditions to hang on to, that effort, however it turned out, deserves some respect for the attempt.
I wish she could have taken all the kids to the battleship, because girls can learn from that stuff too, but three 5 year olds are a handful and a happy relaxed mom and three kids is better than a stressed freaked out mom with 8, the girls will get their chance, hopefully it won’t all be salons and nail paintings for them.
Unless I miss my guess KATE thought the battleship was pretty cool. I didn’t get that she was faking her interest, or her satisfaction at being there with her boys.
I like the earlier shows, too, when the excursions were low-budget. I didn’t like the season where the editing seemed unfair to some kids, and Kate. From what I see, that has changed. If they have to be on TV, I am glad they at least get to go to Legoland, Hawaii, front row seats at Disney on Ice, etc. I don’t mind the special treatment, since they are followed by cameras. I’m happy about the perks for the kids, including the free clothes.
I do feel bad about Jon and how unhappy he seems. I really admired him when I saw his 30th birthday episode, knowing he had 8 little ones at his young age. I’ve seen him show his loving side to those kids, and Kate. I don’t think he’s handling the stress of the divorce well at all.
I’m wondering about Jon. I can’t decide whether he has totally lost his mind, and if so, why, and what kind of actions are reasonable for Kate, and TLC, and the custody judge to make – or if he was always this big of a fool and they just hid it, or he suppressed it.
He seems to be a laid back and affectionate dad but he clearly has some kind of axe to grind re: TLC. I can understand (without approving) of his party animal activities and even the womanizing upon getting dumped – men, young men, especially, can do that, and behave like a wild animal let out of a box, even when they themselves brought all this on – The latest photos tho of him in the “lies” t shirt are disturbing. He has something to say but rather than come out and say it he prefers this passive aggressive mode of insinuation, and wearing that shirt when selling lemonaide with his guileless 5 year olds seems very wrong, somehow. He’s gone from 30 to 13…
He is objecting to something major and implying something, which I can only hope he will work out privately and not via some tacky tell all book that will haunt his kids forever. He’s clearly gagged by his TLC contract and that is bugging him, Kate going onto shows to tell HER side implies she is not so gagged, and if she and the kids are the future of the show, then Jon’s going for alimony or some kind of leverage, strongly hinting that he knows a lot more than he can say now.
Let him be silent and take wise counsel….Jon and Kate plus 8 isn’t just a “show” it is his children’s life.