By Anya
Radaronline.com has a new post with pictures of Jon visiting his children on Sunday:
“The former Jon & Kate Plus 8 star brought out the shovel but the kids did more playing in the snow than their dad did removing it. The littlest Gosselins also got their scooter going in the driveway.”
Some have claimed that Jon has not visited the kids in weeks. I am not sure that we can be sure about that, but his presence there does seem rare. It is great to see him with his kids. I am sure they miss their dad.
In other Gosselin news, more information is coming out about Kate’s new book, “I Just Want You to Know: Letters to My Kids on Love, Faith, and Family.” While it seems that the book will contain letters and journal entries, it appears (at least from the book descriptions posted on TLC and Amazon) that this will be a fairly revealing memoir picking up where “Multiple Blessings” ended. Here are a few details:
- From only traveling a few miles for a rare meal out to flying to Hawaii to renew their wedding vows
-From Kate’s need for control, to learning how to be flexible
-From watching a child who couldn’t spell, singing B-I-B-I-B (the Bible song), to their first child growing in her faith and praying to ask Jesus into her heart
-From Kate’s first speaking engagement (she was afraid to fly) to her book tour
-From a desire for a ‘normal’ family life that didn’t include outside help, to a desire for a ‘normal’ day without public attention.
More information is available on http://kategosselinbook.com/
Something I didn’t know whether to chuckle over or feel sad about – many of Kate’s detractors have been spending a lot of time on the Amazon site trashing her and a book that none of them have yet read.
Not how I would spend my time, but to each her own, I guess.
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34 Responses to Jon Comes Home, More about Kate’s Book
Long time reader first time poster, love the new format.
Seriously wish that all those “Negative Nellies” would just lay off Kate and perhaps get a life! Wow, makes you wonder what has happened to them to make them so angry and hateful towards a woman they don’t even know. Some past comments made about the kids are enough to turn my stomache. Even the FaceBook J&K+8 Fan Site has been taken over by negativaty and snark, very disturbing. Some of the posts remind me of 13yo girls, but they are grown women, who apparently have nothing better in life than to make mean comments all day. The woman has 8 kids, of course she has to spend a lot of time shopping, they grow and eat everyday! Sheesh, if she looks good doing it, kudos to her!!
Hi Momsby, glad you posted.
I am not a bracelet person, but I really like the one that Kate is wearing. I want one. The sweater, well, I’m not ready to go back to the 80′s. I am still tired of that neck. Again, Kate is looking fab.
I was wondering how ROL knew how long it had been since Jon had been at the house. Unless they have a photographer out there everyday, how do they know? On the other hand, I don’t doubt there is a pap living in a tent somewhere across the street.
Anya,
It’s sad to see how the haters have taken over Kate’s listing on Amazon. They have listed tags on her books like child abuse, borderline personality disorder and toxic people, among other even worse barbs.
It never ceases to amaze me that the very people who claim to care SO much about the children (Yeah, right!), are the first ones to tear down their mother and try to keep her from supporting her family.
judy i think they should watch their steps. at some point they are going to cross a line with the law. it’s like they think they can do/write/say anything regardless of truth and heedless of time and place. they are already libelous and i think it’s only b/c kate never goes there that they are getting by with it. but at some point things will build up and her lawyers will settle things.
as far as jon with the kids, i think jon loves his kids. i just think he’s immature and selfish. i think he will take care of their needs and all inside where there are no paps to take pix for him to get $$. but i do think that there are many people (was reading on rol) who trash jon b/c others trash kate. neither thing is right.
Kimmie, I doubt Jon is getting $s for pap shots anymore. It’s got to be part of the settlement. He would still be on the shows and having his pic snapped constantly if he was able. It must have been a relief to Kate that he can’t take the kids to the fence for pics.
It’s so dumb about the negative comments on Amazon when the book isn’t even out. I haven’t been there, but I can imagine. They have been singing the same songs for so long. They bring more attention to Kate and make themselves look “insane”.
I just read the stuff on Amazon (I have time on my hands with a 103 fever LOL) and all I can say is UNBELIEVABLE. wth? It scares me to know that these people are out there lurking and may be people I know!?!? Do they really believe their own hype? Scary.
Hi Momsby! Love the name. Thanks for contributing. Hope to see more of you.
Kimmie, I agree with you about ROL. Some of them take it too far with their trashing of Jon. There is a way to state your opinion on the behavior without tearing the person apart.
CraftyMomof3 – 103. You poor thing. I hope someone is taking care of you and you are able to relax and get over your bug quickly.
As for the ‘labels’ on Amazon, if you have an account, there is a way to “vote” on whether you think they are accurate. I did that for a couple of days, but there is only so much you can do. Some of these folks are so filled with anger and hate that they will invent multiple accounts. Their actions may well be counter-productive, however, in that they continue to contribute to the buzz about Kate and her upcoming projects.
Kate’s 15 minutes may never be up as long as the women who hate her keep up their incessant blogging, campaigning and other general nonsense!
At the risk of sounding naive, I just don’t understand how people can already be trashing Kate’s new book. It has not even been released yet! Why would anyone try to prevent a mother from earning a living? You would think the “Child Adocates” would leave her alone now that the show has ended. Yet, they continue to try and disrupt her life and interfere with her career. Why begrudge someone who is providing for their family? Calling for boycotts on products that she is photographed, buying for her kid’s is I.M.A CRAZY. I found the posting’s on radar a little to intense for my taste, but it was nice to see positive comments on Kate for a change. Read the first 2, will read this one.
Welcome Momsby-
I don’t think Kate can do anything to satisfy them, their level of hate doesn’t make much sense and neither do their actions.
Momsby, I agree about the Facebook Fan Page. It’s been overtaken by a club of internet mean girls. I am seriously doubting that it has a moderator.
The thing that really bothered me was when some poor, unsuspecting fan posted some very kind and sincere words of support and encouragement to Kate and the kids. I thought, “Aw, so sweet.” Then my warm fuzzies got all ruined when someone replied with a “rose coloured glasses” comment and it all went down hill from there. I mean, flooding any and every site that supports a Kate project with hateful comments has been going on for a long time, but when a fan gets made fun of for being nice, what the hell is that? So sad, disappointing and frustrating.
Kimmie, I totally agree. I think they have crossed the line already. For some reason, they seem to think that if they say it is true, it is true, but most of what they spout they just make up, unless they are secretly living in Kate’s house or head! I can’t imagine that Kate’s people aren’t watching them. Their level of crazy and hate just makes me NUTS!
Kate is FAR from learning how to be flexible. And if she really wanted a ‘normal’ family and public life she wouldn’t call the paparazzi to take pics of her.
Kate, unless you have some insider knowledge we are not privy to, I don’t think you have facts to back up your accusations.
-I don’t know whether or not Kate has learned to be more flexible. The only knowledge I have is from the interviews and the book she has coming out in which she shares that this trait is something she is working on and has she managed to curtail to some extent. I don’t take her word as the “gospel truth”, but I give it more weight than I would give to an anonymous poster by the name of “Kate” on a message board telling us the contrary.
-See point #1. I have no direct knowledge that Kate is calling the paparazzi to take pictures of her. By the the same token, because I don’t know for certain, I have not stated that I believe Jon is doing this.
What I do know for a fact is that Kate and Jon have many fans and many detractors. It stands to reason that Radar, Celebrity Gossip Girls, US Weekly, etc. will have paparazzi taking pictures of them because they know the lovers and the HATERS will hop on the site and add a comment. The number of ‘clicks’ is duly reported to their advertisers.
Kate-
Suggesting that Kate calls the paps is absurd. Sadly neither Jon nor Kate have to do that- like many “celebs” they are hounded. Jon is certainly more friendly and chatty with them, thats for sure. I see no difference in paps than stalkers. It should be illegal.
well i think jon has called the paps to take pix of him. he has a special pap who he is friends with and is always around taking his pic no matter where he is…well he did before all that stuff with hailey and the lawsuit happened.
then too remember it was jon who was calling entertainment tonight and letting them know all about the twins’ birthday party and gifts and all.
and jon is the one who is always talking to the paps and all…kate ignores them.
all that said, i do hate that gwoppers say things as truth when it’s just something they’ve heard or made up or think.
He very well may have called them. But my point was that neither of them have to call to be followed- especially during the divorce. His encouraging it has made it worse.
yes samantha…i was kind of speaking to the fact that we don’t know that kate does (which was stated as fact by kate) but we do know that at least twice jon has done so.
Did anybody notice that the fan’s seem to be taking back the fb fan page from the Kate haters?? The mean girls of the internet(thanks for putting a name to it Kimmie) was what inspired me to post on this site. I’ve never posted on a fan site before, but I found myself so outraged I needed an outlet! Really hope they don’t find this site, to post their crazy mean junk on. All the action on the fan site makes me wonder just what TLC has planned for us. At the very least all the buzz will be great for Kate’s book sales.
It’s just bizarre to me that someone joins a J&K fan site on FB and posts things like, “I can’t get away from this woman!” Of course you can. She’s very easy to ignore. She’s certainly a lot easier to ignore if you don’t join a fan group for her show.
Some people are really weird.
How true Jennie. I love it when they say “I can’t get away from this woman” and then proceed to comment on website after website about her. They enlarge her pictures and examine them for signs of cosmetic surgery…truly bizarre.
I only wish good things for the Gosselin family (yes even Jon). If the parents are doing well then the children will be better off too.
I have pre-ordered my copy of her book. It should be an interesting read.
A word on the legal side of things regarding comments about Jon and Kate.
IT ISN”T libel, if it’s TRUE or it’s an OPINION. Jon and Kate both really screwed up their kids lives and did so on screen for all the world to see. Kate would not be my choice for a friend, she’s too snippy for me. Jon is no angel for his activity with other women while still married. Sorry, I’m just old fashioned enough to believe, you get a divorce first, and then DATE. In defense if Kate, taking care of 8 children might make me snippy too. As for Jon, more than a few people I know are married to partners that are as much as 14 years different in age.
So on that note, here are four quarters and my opinion which total worth for one bus ticket.
cookie…about libel…if it isn’t true and it’s being stated as fact (something gwops do all.the.time) it IS libel. if it was just them spouting off their opinions it would be one thing…but they write letters, emails, etc to companies who essentially are kate’s employers and say things that are not proven and they don’t say that they are their opinions.
i still say that kate is way above them in taking the high road by ignoring them and not seeking legal sanctions against them for their libelous actions. that’s messing with her livelihood. they should have boundaries but they don’t seem to know what that is.
Exactly how are the kids’ lives screwed up? I have not heard that. Also, why do some people refer to Jon as “no angel” when he committed adultry. Kate would have been called a who@e if she had done what he did. Could you imagine, if she left her 8 kids with their dad and ran around with a number of young men traveling the country? Who would refer to Kate as not “an angel”. What a double standard.
“Exactly how are the kids’ lives screwed up? I have not heard that. Also, why do some people refer to Jon as “no angel” when he committed adultry. Kate would have been called a who@e if she had done what he did. Could you imagine, if she left her 8 kids with their dad and ran around with a number of young men traveling the country? Who would refer to Kate as not “an angel”. What a double standard.”
Because Jon did not commit adultery. Jon and Kate secretly broke up in late 2008. Even Kate admitted to it. Go watch the radar videos of Aunt Jodie and Uncle Kevin. It was only after their marriage ended that Jon, with the full permission of Kate – since they broke up, that Jon started going to bars and such.
LM says….Because Jon did not commit adultery. Jon and Kate secretly broke up in late 2008. Even Kate admitted to it. Go watch the radar videos of Aunt Jodie and Uncle Kevin. It was only after their marriage ended that Jon, with the full permission of Kate – since they broke up, that Jon started going to bars and such.
LM, I am not going to speculate on when the Gosselin’s marriage actually ended. Jon and Kate may even disagree on that point.
I can tell you one thing, however, I don’t think the words of Jodi and Kevin should be taken as the final say on the matter. They were paid for the interview. They did not have first hand knowledge of what occured, rather they repeated what Jon told them—after the fact.
Even Kate admitted to it.
When and where did Kate “admit” to this?
“I can tell you one thing, however, I don’t think the words of Jodi and Kevin should be taken as the final say on the matter. They were paid for the interview. They did not have first hand knowledge of what occured, rather they repeated what Jon told them—after the fact. ”
No one knows if they were paid. They possibly could have been, but it doesn’t matter. The truth is the truth. If you’re going to lie about something why lie about Jon and Kate having a fake marriage? There are so many things one could lie about , why lie about that particular thing?
Watch the radar online video, watch their testimony, see their emotions and attitudes. I’ve seen it and in my heart I know they are telling the truth. Their interview came out like 2 weeks after Jon was caught out with Deanna Hummel. Remember her?
Kate has admitted many times that her “reason” why they broke up was because “he changed”. That’s it. For a woman who screams and berates her husband because he breathes too loudly or because he didn’t use a coupon was amazingly calm towards him throughout the initial expose of his outings. Does that make sense? No! The reason she was calm was because, according to Jodie and Kevin, she ended the marriage back in late 2008.
Why did she end it? It’s speculation, but people think she just wasn’t attracted to Jon anymore.
from a facebook post
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This is what I think occurred. Of course, this takes the view of Jon’s, Kevin’s, Jodie’s story being true.
Back late last year, during her long book tours, Kate spent quite a bit time with Steve. During these times(several months in fact), Kate and Steve bonded and probably developed a strong friendship. There are pictures of Kate and Steve having dinner, so its probably not hard to imagine that they had dinner pretty much all time while they were out together on tour. What did they speak about? Kate probably spoke about the show, her family(kids and Jon), and herself. While Steve probably spoke about his family, his company as executive vice president and his career in security. For those that don’t know, he has quite a range of experiences in counter-terrorism and dignitary protection such as APEC meetings (APEC is important meeting between the heads of state of asian pacific region. Our president always attends). Steve is a self-made man, he has leadership and project management experience, is sophisticated, smart, and mature. I’m sure he also had quite a number of fascinating security stories he told Kate and I bet Kate was enchanted by them.
So now, let’s compare Steve to Jon. I think most people would agree that Jon is a little immature, doesn’t have initiative, didn’t even go to college, seems a little clueless at times, has unscrupulously pretty much gone with all of Kate’s silly shenanigans (he got fired from the job at the kitchen remodeling company because he was spending some of the company time looking for freebies for his sextuplets. Aunt Jodie and Kevin also claimed from that radar online video that this was one of things Jon and Kate constantly fought about even as recently as last year.) and seems to generally lack ambition. Jon is like the polar opposite of Steve.
So now let’s bring ourselves to the mind of Kate. She is on this book tour, she is meeting all these fans who are asking her to sign her book and pretty much showering her with lots of adoration. These same fans are also saying how they much love the show(and I would not be surprised if Kate thought the main reason the show was successful was because of her). And finally, let’s not forget that “eight little faces” was still in the works. She’s riding a big high at this point in time. Because of all these factors, I think she started reevaluating everything in her life and Jon was one of those things.
While I don’t believe Kate and Steve ever had a physical relationship, I do believe Kate developed a strong attraction to him, her bodyguard and protector. So, she looks at Jon who is a “lame fish and isn’t going anywhere”, looks at Steve who is sophisticated and mature, and then looks at herself and sees an up and coming media star and bestselling author. She now thinks, “I should be with someone like Steve, not a loser like Jon” and regrets she ever married him. So, when the kids are asleep she just blurts out “I can’t believe I ever married you.” and then states that it’s all over between them.
So, what does Jon think? He is shocked and surprised. Where did this come from? Why is she leaving me now? He immediately uses his male instinct and he realizes that his wife has been spending a lot of time with Steve and conclude with his overactive imagination that Steve and Kate are sleeping together. Afterwords, he shows up at Aunt Jodie’s and Uncle Kevin’s house spilling his guts. He tells them that Kate has ended it, that they’re still doing the show and he think Kate and Steve are having an affair(This was told by Jodie and Kevin in another radar online video)
So, now we have the situation we have today….
Lastly, I think Kate left Jon not to be with Steve(because he’s married) but because she was inspired by Steve. She thinks someone like Steve is more on her level and not Jon.
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In the end, no one will ever know what happened. Jon claims from his ABC interview that Kate ended the relationship. Jodie and Kevin claim Kate ended the relationship.
LM, it’s Jon’s word v. Kate’s. Jodi and Kevin are not just unreliable because they were likely paid for their Radar Online video; they are irrelevant because they were online repeating what Jon had told them, apparently, not anything they knew to be factual on a first-hand basis. So it’s simply Jon’s POV, repeated by three people, rather than the POV of Jon, Kevin and Jodi individually.
As for the FB post, it’s not an implausible story…but that’s all it is, a story. It’s speculation. I could come up with equally plausible speculation that puts the blame on Jon (it would go something like this: Kate went on tour and without her keeping Jon in check, he started drinking and screwing around and behaving like an idiot). It is meaningless (and a little creepy; whoever wrote that has certainly been thinking about this a lot).
The facebook post is an interesting story. Whoever wrote it is missing some critical points though. One of the twins “wasn’t surprised” to find out about the divorce. Kate has recently (again) mentioned that the home was not peaceful. So why would anyone think Kate just decided to end the marriage and ambushed poor Jon? Why not assume there was fighting?
Adultery is any sexual relationship outside of marriage. The marriage ended in December. According to Hailey and a few others, Jon is guilty of adultery. Jon doesn’t get to redefine the word.
Jodi and Kevin said that Jon came to them in December and confessed to his insecurities about Steve. I think it is more likely that Jon, not Kate, was the one who concluded he was not good enough for Kate. He also confessed to being jealous about her chance to travel, be away from the family, and eat lobster. Jodi and Kevin were a wealth of information about Jon, not Kate. The ROL interviews did not flatter Jon, Kevin, or Jodi. The Kreiders have not denied getting paid for it. They admitted in the ROL interviews that they were paid for their participation on Jon & Kate + 8, even though Jodi’s sister wrote that Jodi was never compensated. Jodi did not correct her sister’s false claim about payment at the time. The ROL interviews were aired just as the Gosselin’s marriage was failing, exploiting the family’s pain for online hits. Kevin and Jodi openly admitted that they were telling things said to them in confidence by a jealous and unhappy husband. Who does that? How do you live with yourself after doing something like that?
“As for the FB post, it’s not an implausible story…but that’s all it is, a story. It’s speculation. I could come up with equally plausible speculation that puts the blame on Jon (it would go something like this: Kate went on tour and without her keeping Jon in check, he started drinking and screwing around and behaving like an idiot). It is meaningless (and a little creepy; whoever wrote that has certainly been thinking about this a lot).”
Yes, it is speculation, certainly the part of why Kate left Jon, but there is way more evidence to support Jodie’s and Kevin’s story than the other way around – that Kate ended the marriage back in Late 2008. Also, Kate has never denied Jodie/Kevin’s story. As for the fact that they got paid, who cares? Jon got paid for the US magazine cover interview, Kate gets paid to do the show for TLC and also gets paid to go on Jay Leno, does that make everything she and Jon said false? No. Again, why would Jodie and Kevin bring up this whole secret marriage thing. If they really wanted to make up false accusations, they could ‘ve done much worse. They could say that Kate is drug user, she physically abuses the kids, etc.. Listen to all their interviews on Radar from that time period, if they are lying, they deserve an oscar for acting and one for writing (in keeping their stories straight). Not only that, but Jodie and Kevin would pretty be turned into to outcasts from Grandparents Krieder and siblings Krieder for telling deliberate lies to hurt Kate.
If their marriage was still tight, don’t you think Kate would ‘ve been angry and reined Jon in when he was caught playing beer pong with college coed in February 2009? Then a few months later Jon gets caught with Deanna Hummel in May 2009. (I could be off on the actual months). But as all this happens, Kate acts so cool and calm. The only thing that makes sense is Jodie and Kevin’s claim that their marriage ended already and that from their secret agreement, Jon was allowed to go and have girlfriends as long as he showed up for filming.
@Ann@IW ” Whoever wrote it is missing some critical points though. One of the twins “wasn’t surprised” to find out about the divorce”
How does that conflict with the posting? You are siting what Mady said according to Kate in a People article released in June or Late May 2009. By then, Jon and Kate were taking turns being with the kids. Of course by then, there should be no surprise that Jon and Kate were actually divorcing. This is a full 6 months after Kate ended it .
Did Jon commit adultery? Well, if Kate didn’t end the marriage in late 2008, then yes, Jon committed adultery. But if she did , then no. Marriage isn’t a piece of paper that needs a stamp of approval from city hall, it’s spiritual vow.
You guys did an interview with Jon. Why don’t you guys ask him privately if Jodie and Kevin’s claim is true? No need to have it published, we all know Jon will get sued by TLC if he speaks publicly about himself.
but there is way more evidence to support Jodie’s and Kevin’s story than the other way around – that Kate ended the marriage back in Late 2008.
What evidence are you referring to?
“What evidence are you referring to?”
Everything. Jon’s interviews, Kate’s interviews, Jodie’s/Kevin’s interview. I can’t believe you guys never discussed this on your site. Did you guys ever watch the ABC Cuomo interview with Jon? What about the ABC interview with Kate?
from that interview:
When Cuomo asked Jon why Kate asked for a split, Jon honestly befuddled said that he didn’t know. “out of the blue one day, and after dinner, she came to me and said it was over”. He said he was shocked and didn’t understand where this came from. Of course this was late 2008 when Kate was still doing her book tours and spending a lot of time away from home on trips with steve. Because of this, Jon thought Kate was cheating on him with Steve. It was also from that interview Jon claimed Kate called him a “lamefish who wasn’t going anywhere”.
from the radar online interview with Jodie and Kevin, they also said Jon told them in late 2008 that Kate out of the blue one day said “it’s over”. And Jodie and Kevin also state that Jon had no clue as to why except his suspicions that he thought Kate was cheating on him with Steve.
It seems strange that back then, when Kevin/Jodie and Jon weren’t in any real speaking terms(Jon: “Kevin and Jodie haven’t even been to our new house…”) that both their stories would match up so precisely in details.
There is more evidence and consistencies to show that Kate left Jon in late 2008 than not.
I’ve been through all this with another forum and everybody pretty much agreed. Actually from what I remember, no one thought otherwise after the original Radar online videos showed up. Maybe there were some doubters, but everyone pretty came aboard after watching the subsequent interviews with Kate, Jon, and everyone else…
Nothing that you’ve mentioned constitutes evidence. Again, what you are talking about is a basic he said/she said situation between Jon and Kate. They are the ones that know what happened. The fact that Jon apparently told the same story to Kevin and Jodi as he did to Chris Cuomo simply means that he is consistent in his version of things. I haven’t seen Kate be inconsistent, so again, it’s just a matter of which of them you believe. That’s not evidence. Evidence is tangible and based in fact, not opinion.