Kate and Tony will perform the Paso Doble during Week Three of DWTS on Monday night. Kate has suggested there will be an added dramatic element and the dance will touch on some of what she has experienced the last two years. How are you feeling? Take our poll below and share your thoughts in the comment section.
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69 Responses to Kate And Tony To Dance The Paso Doble
Kate is apparently just a very bitter person and always has been. I don’t think she is having fun with Toni and DWTS and she continues to try to boss everything and everyone (Toni). She just needs to go home and do some self examination and maybe she will someday see what she really is and then maybe she can change. Shes really lucky that Toni did not walk out on her.
I don’t see her as bitter. She is obviously overwhelmed and I don’t think she deals with that well. The six babies in diapers overwhelmed her, the pot head adulterer over whelmed her and certainly this dancing thing overwhelms her. What amazes me is that she is hanging in there with the dancing. It is the one thing she could walk away from. Tony’s last partner was ‘injured’ before she ever went on the air.
I do think Len said exactly the right words to get the best performance out of her.
OMG, did Tony have a sex change operaton? (“Toni” is a girl’s name.)
When did she “boss” Tony? She was having trouble learning her steps and asked for help.
Tony is always a little full of himself. Over the years he routinely gets hammered for his choreography and always fights back. But he doesn’t hold a candle to Max as far as fights with partners go. And I seem to remember that the biggest fight was with Cheryl and one of her partners. I think the fight thing was just Tony auditioning for another move.
I said this in a previous thread & I will say it again- DWTS *always* shows the dance partners bickering- it adds a little drama or flare to the show. The little communication issue between Kate & Tony was not a big deal & like MarieS said, it was no where near the biggest fight that has been on DWTS.
People are really digging for straws w/the whole Kate/Tony dancing partnership & trying to make Kate once again look like the evil person.
DWTS is another type of *reality* show & they will edit or show whatever they think will give them high ratings.
More drama for Kate. This makes me mad and I feel bad for her. After all Jon has done, he wants to go back to court to revisit some issues, one of them custody. A lawyer in PA, who is a friend of Jon’s late father, made a statement.
In addition to contract issues with TLC, List said they plan to review the custody arrangement. He said they are concerned Kate’s busy schedule leaves little time with the kids.
“I don’t know how she is able to spend any quality time with the children,” said List. “Children need the physical presence of a mother especially during these tender years.”
Mom’s are allowed to work. Jon has done what?? If he files something, it will cost her more in legal fees. She was home so much before she started DWTS and then she is still trying to be there. It’s a shame for the kids if they have more drama and it’s a shame for the kids for their mom to go through unnecessary stress. I don’t believe that Jon is doing this in the best interest of his children. Here’s the article.
Does Jon want to spend more time with his kids? If Kate is not around due to work, and this is what she intends to do, then he should get more custody – providing he is around himself – and with it, a reduction in child support. However it doesn’t seem fair to demand the lion’s share of custody and then leave the kids with sitters – whoever is custodial at the time. You can always rationalize it by calling it work, however, given the limelight they have been under and all they’ve been through I would think they could use some stability. There is more at stake her for them than their parents’ ”careers” – a stable home is more than just a house when you think how much their lives have had to change for this divorce and the end of the show.
Both of these parents seem to believe they belong in show biz – although I don’t agree (haven’t seen any dancing with the stars but just in general) if that is what they intend to do it might make more sense to move the whole kit and kaboodle to LA so that they would not burn so many days travelling and could spend more time with the kids.
“In addition to contract issues with TLC, List said they plan to review the custody arrangement. He said they are concerned Kate’s busy schedule leaves little time with the kids.
“I don’t know how she is able to spend any quality time with the children,” said List. “Children need the physical presence of a mother especially during these tender years.””
Are you kidding me?! This is ridiculous! Yes children need their parents or a parent to be there for them, but there are parents all over the world that must travel or be gone for long periods of time- Hello Military! But I don’t see Jon doing anything constructive- why can’t he be the constant in his children’s lives?
i don’t know. i think the article from the link above sounds reasonable. i think that with dtws the book tour coming up kate will be away more than usual. i don’t think she is away as much as people are saying but with the book tour and dwts she will be.
i also think that jon should step up at this time and say *hey, let’s make my custody days for the days that you will be away…since i’m not working right now*. i mean that makes sense rather than trying to change custody permanently for something that isn’t a permanent thing (book tour, dwts).
yeah a lot more pressure…but this time i think jon may have a fighting chance in court because he has a lawyer that seems to care about the situation rather than the smarmy greedy heller.
Jon is just now asking this guy for help? He’s needed a good lawyer for,what, a year now?
The timing (right after his latest girlfriend kicked him out), and the fact that he still has not found work, makes me think he just wants a place to stay, and a reduction in his child support.
They just finalized the divorce and settled the lawsuit a few months ago. What has changed in that time that he thinks they need to revise things already? I think he knew Kate would be working and the sort of work she would be doing. I thought he didn’t like being stuck at home with the kids. I would hope they could work things out without going to court again.
The timing (right after his latest girlfriend kicked him out), and the fact that he still has not found work, makes me think he just wants a place to stay, and a reduction in his child support. – Kiki
Unfortunately, Kiki, you took the words out of my mouth.
I won’t fault Jon for finding a new lawyer. That is a positive, I believe. Hopefully, this lawyer will be more realistic and guide Jon better in the choices he makes.
On the flip side, the fact that the new lawyer has talked to the press before even beginning work on this case is troublesome.
I am willing to keep a half-way open mind, but I do feel bad for all that Kate has to put up with.
Shes really lucky that Toni did not walk out on her. – Boop
Well that would have been rather stupid of Tony, wouldn’t it? He is under contract with the show. Unlike Jon, I think he understands the concept of adhering to a contract.
As ‘I’d rather poke my eye out’ and others have tried to point out, what happened between Tony & Kate is a regular occurrence on DWTS. Certain parties with different agendas might be trying to portray it as unusual or Kate’s behavior as beyond the pale, but from the footage shown, it was neither.
Kiki, ita w/your post.
On the flip side, the fact that the new lawyer has talked to the press before even beginning work on this case is troublesome.~Anya
That struck me too. With Kate so much in the media right now, I’m not surprised Jon’s lawyer made a statement.
Based on the lawyer’s statement, it sounds like Jon is doing this based on Kate’s schedule w/DWTS. However, by the time they got something filed and a court date is set, she will prob off and back home. I doubt this would warrant an emergency hearing (?). I’ve also thought that since she did DWTS she wouldn’t be doing much of a book-tour if she does one at all, but that’s just speculation. They haven’t announced anything yet (although her book was a complete surprise) and she’s supposed to have a show sometime.
His NEW girlfriend has already kicked him out? The one he was in Utah with? Astounding. What a track record. you wonder what he has that brings these girls into his life – and for such a short time. Was this last one looking for her 15 minutes to be photographed with him in Sundance?
I don’t think it is fair for Kate to expect Jon to have less than half custody, and pay child support presumably – as if he is not the custodial parent – but then be expected to “babysit” around a schedule of her repeated absences, as if he isn’t helping suppor them and has nothing to do but run over there to babysit – he too needs to work, to get paid and help support the family. She wants to be off doing work, dancing, interviewing, book signings etc, then she is not going to be there half the time, and one of them should be. If that is him, then the custody should reflect that – but it’s difficult to set custody up to reflect a schedule that constantly changes. Some times I’m home, sometimes not, never know when because offers come up. You have to be able to be flexible. That is very tough when neither has a stable job with regular hours.
If Jon were not working and not paying child support, then yes, let him come in at her beck and call and babysit since he then offers little else. However the question must be asked – what the heck IS he doing? Is he working? Paying his share? Or off just complaining about how many babysitters she is getting when she is trying to support the family? I have seen hide nor hair of them on any magazine I read for some time, apart from her being on DWTS. If he is out of money and wants to reduce his support then maybe he should be given that chance so at least they have a parent in the home at all times or at least 95% of the time. She then has freedom to work, the kids have a parent home, and he doesn’t get hit with a support payment he can’t make. Isn’t that a win/win/win?
Right Lily, even if she stayed on through the finals (not likely), that’d only be a couple of months.
Okay, my question is, Jon and TLC settled the breach-of-contract suit, so if he is questioning his contract again, can they,um,” re-sue” him?
If he is out of money and wants to reduce his support then maybe he should be given that chance so at least they have a parent in the home at all times or at least 95% of the time. She then has freedom to work, the kids have a parent home, and he doesn’t get hit with a support payment he can’t make. Isn’t that a win/win/win? — SadStateofAffairs says:
You sum up nicely why I am willing to keep a (half-way!) open mind about this.
I first have to put aside my own prejudices about a man that has not seemed very interested in holding down a job or taking an active role in raising his children (at least for the last several months).
I do not personally believe he has a future in TV. If for no other reason than his behavior has been erratic and he has shown that he is willing to break a contract when the terms do not suit him any longer.
Assuming he has no interest in purchasing a business or taking some other action to bring income into the family AND also assuming that drugs and random girlfriends-of-the month are in his past, then increasing his time with the kids is not a bad idea, IMO. Of course, his child support should be adjusted accordingly if he is contributing more.
We have seen previously that Jon does have it in him to be a really good dad. Even those of us who have sympathized with Kate wish for Jon to be a more active, steady, and involved father. We will see.
I’m okay with Jon spending more time with the kids but it doesn’t sound like his lawyer is going about this the right way. Challenging custody arrangements as a gambit to reduce child support seems to be pretty common with divorced parents. It’s stupid of Jon and of this lawyer who is not giving me the sense that he’s much better than Heller, so far.
I’ve said it before, but I totally agree on how ridiculous the hullabaloo over Tony and Kate’s “fight” was. It was far from the worst star-dancer argument DWTS viewers have seen – heck, it wasn’t even the worst one that night! And the coverage that made it sounds like it was *Kate* who threw a fit, when it was in fact Tony…just shaking my head.
If he is out of money and wants to reduce his support then maybe he should be given that chance so at least they have a parent in the home at all times or at least 95% of the time. She then has freedom to work, the kids have a parent home, and he doesn’t get hit with a support payment he can’t make. Isn’t that a win/win/win? ~ Sad State of Affairs~
This is what happened the first time. Kate was doing the book tour and Jon was at home with the kids and he hated being the stay at home dad. I’m not sure that is what he wants.
Kiki thanks for the laugh upthread!
I don’t see her as bitter. She is obviously overwhelmed and I don’t think she deals with that well. The six babies in diapers overwhelmed her, the pot head adulterer over whelmed her and certainly this dancing thing overwhelms her. What amazes me is that she is hanging in there with the dancing. It is the one thing she could walk away from. Tony’s last partner was ‘injured’ before she ever went on the air.
I do think Len said exactly the right words to get the best performance out of her.-MarieS
I am so with you on this MarieS. She may be feeling like she’s not as talented as the others, and is accepting that. Taking Len’s words to heart, she can overcome that negative attitude and it will show in her next dance. I hope she does. By the way, I LOL’d at your statement “the pothead adulterer”…so true!
I first have to put aside my own prejudices about a man that has not seemed very interested in holding down a job or taking an active role in raising his children (at least for the last several months).
I do not personally believe he has a future in TV. If for no other reason than his behavior has been erratic and he has shown that he is willing to break a contract when the terms do not suit him any longer.
Assuming he has no interest in purchasing a business or taking some other action to bring income into the family AND also assuming that drugs and random girlfriends-of-the month are in his past, then increasing his time with the kids is not a bad idea, IMO. Of course, his child support should be adjusted accordingly if he is contributing more.
We have seen previously that Jon does have it in him to be a really good dad. Even those of us who have sympathized with Kate wish for Jon to be a more active, steady, and involved father. We will see.-Anya
So, so, agree with you Anya. When they were having problems and he felt “lost” when she was on the book tour…she told him this is his time to work from home, volunteer, etc…and he didn’t want any of that. I always thought what a doof for not taking the time to be proactive and make money for your family with your i.t. talents. That’s a definite business that could be done from home. The potential income and becoming a better man were wasted all these years. I just want to slap him in the back of the head like Mark Harmon does to his team on NCIS.
I think we’re all rooting for him to grow up, act his age, and feel and do the responsible thing in helping to raise these beautiful kids. He really needs to be in therapy, learn from his mistakes, and step up.
There is a new entry up on Kate’s blog. You can read it here. The comments are already starting. I just can not understand why people feel the need to post their hatred all over the internet.
I have no desire to see Jon Gosselin on tv or god forbid in a movie but then what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, if this is their new life, although, ugh, I shudder to think what he will do, nothing thus far has appeared to be the least bit classy. He was a stay at home dad and while he did not like sitting home while she ran around, perhaps he has noticed by now that he doesn’t seem to have offers rolling in and it might be in the best interest of the whole family if he was Mr Dad for awhile – he isn’t having much success, long term at least, with the ladies. The best thing after a toxic relationship is to have some time off, although time off from dating, having no other real choices, and wanting to reduce support isn’t the best reason to stay with his kids, it’s hopefully not the only reason. He does seem to want what is best for them and if that comes with $$$ for him I guess it’s “all good.” Lawyers are so hideous, when it comes to family court – sorry if that offends anyone but they are their for their client and not for the kids IMO.
I have a concern about Jon and his latest round with yet another lawyer. When they first separated he had a lawyer from Philly who was very familar with media laws/ contracts, and most likely divorce, then he dumped Jon. He withdrew from the case. Not a good sign when a lawyer withdraws from litigation. At the same time he change media reps, in comes Heller and Heller and we all saw how they created more of a circus. Jon’s last girlfriend was a law graduate. My point is when it is contract law and divorce law they are pretty standard across the board. If he would have listened to the first one, he wouldn’t be in the mess he is in now. How many different people to you have to talk to know you are barking up the wrong tree? Where was this good friend of the family when this all happened? Was he contacting Jon over the mess he was creating over the summer? The facts at this point are that Jon is unmarketable(is that a word?) Now you want to cry about spilt milk? Jon created his own problems with his behavior and actions.
I am not defending Kate, because I am sure she is rubbing a bit of salt in his ego. Ten years is a long time to know how to push the button. But in defense of Kate for the last 9 months before the DWTS, she has been home taking care of the kids and not traveling except for a few appearances in conferences or TV appearance. For the most part over the summer she stayed at local hotel when Jon had custody. After all the BS over the summer Kate has every right to be leary of her ex-husbands intentions, she lived with the man for 10 years. Her maturity level is much higher then Jon’s when it comes to the big picture. His image is very tattered, by his actions.
I would like to see a win/win situation I want them to be the best parents they can be.Trust is a hard thing to earn, but at this point I am not seeing Jon as being sincere and still a bit unstable in his actions.
There is a new entry up on Kate’s blog. You can read it here. The comments are already starting. I just can not understand why people feel the need to post their hatred all over the internet.
OMG, I agree with you so much. I don’t know why the haters cannot let any site that mentions Kate go without bombarding it with their crap. Negative stuff on Kate’s blog, on TLC’s Facebook fan page, etc. – it just boggles my mind. It’s so…tacky, to come to places where people are being positive and spread the same old poison. There are numerous places that these women can post to their heart’s content; many of them are no-holds-barred and allow them to be just as filthy and ugly as they want to be. But that’s not enough for these women…they aren’t happy unless they can make people who just want to be positive miserable. It’s pathetic.
At least this guy is licensed to practice in PA. Anya, I agree with your take on this: proceeding with caution. There may be legitimate custody concerns that still need to be litigated. I always got the impression that the custody arrangements were handled in court. Maybe something else has come up? It’s hard not to connect this to Jon’ getting dumped, though. Still, it’s important to remember that just because this lawyer says Jon wants this or that, it may all be just more tabloid spin.
Supposedly the eight kids were seen at the Philly airport boarding a plane for LA so that TLC and DWTS and Kate could “exploit” them last week. Uh-huh. This was accompanied by the usual chorus of opinions that this was 100% wrong, or only OK under certain conditions. Blah, blah, blah. I read plenty of “discussion” about Kate’s latest mothering mistake from the better moms watching and blogging, and it didn’t even happen. Not one of these mothering experts retracted her criticisms of Kate.
I just wish Jon would choose another style. I would love for him to show up on What Not to Wear.
I just can not understand why people feel the need to post their hatred all over the internet.~Pam
Over and over I have read the hater question “why does Kate need a bodyguard?”. Just a glance at those boards and it’s so obvious why Kate needs a bodyguard. Instead admitting they are the reason, they mock her for it.
Lily I couldn’t agree more about the bodyguard. Some of the remarks I have read have made my skin crawl. Look at the news about Erin Andrews for recieving death threats, any one who is in the public eye needs to have security. It is a sad fact of life in our society today.
I just hopped back over from the TLC Kate blog. Wow, those hateful women are everywhere. I can understand those who don’t care for her…. sure, I see it. I just choose to see her for who she is and not what I think she should be. Kate is Kate, really is that reason to wish a woman who became “famous” for having 8 children and open doors that most wouldn’t close two broken legs? I mean come on. Get over it, get help and get off the internet. Such an ugly side of human nature. Who cares if she had her breast done, but really hasn’t anyone found the power of a good bra. Is her denial without your proof a reason to claim everything she says is a lie? So she travels for work does that make her a bad mother? Ohhhh, I know I’m telling the wrong group of people, but ewwww it makes my blood boil.
I guess the reason I choose to still be so supportive of her is because the other side is horrible, ugly and sickening. Kate, for all her faults (do those haters live in glass houses?) is a female, #1 to support her, is a mother #2, and sadly women have never been known to stand up for each other. I for one choose kindness.
I just love the comments that the bodyguard is there to keep Kate from attacking people, and that it’s more likely that she’d be attacked by a crazy fan. Well, yes, that has been known to happen, but the fans aren’t the ones threatening her (wasn’t there a “famous” blogger who encouraged people in the area to try to run their van off the road?), digging up personal information about her, and contacting anyone who’s had anything to do with her to “strongly” advise them about what horrible people she and Jon are. TLC (who I assume is paying for her bodyguard), must think there is a good reason for him, or they wouldn’t pay. Also, how do we know who else has bodyguards and who doesn’t? Most of them haven’t been searched out and identified to us like Steve has.
Here’s my take on things:
First off, I have never seen DWTS. I do agree with Poke my eyes out that DWTS is designed to ridicule their “celebs”. This is why I thought it was a bad idea. She should have waited until a proper project came along. If one knew the “celebs” were always portrayed bickering with the professionals, then this sort of project would precisely NOT be the best project. It plays right into the editing of TLC.
I don’t see how in the world they can afford that house. Something’s got to give. Neither of them having any hope of making anything in Hollywood, they should figure something out. Every RN I know (which is 5 RNs) make a very good living. The one’s with experience are knocking down about 70k working 3 nights of 12 hour shifts. The two of them should work it out. A friend of mine has an ex who got layed off. They worked it out so that he does the daily events with the kids (all in school) and even cleans her house and maked dinner, does laundry etc. They have a good relationship though and it is better on the kids if the parents get over it and worry about the kids.
I really feel for those kids.
Just saw the slides of the Easter egg hunt. Slide 5 shows one the little girls with horrible bruises. Good heavens the poor girl.
Trixie I looked at the pictures it is not bruising, it is how the branches are creating shadows you can see it on her dress also. Good grief what people will say when they don’t have real proof.
trixie, where are those RN’s working? In the PA/OH area it’s closer to 50K for 3/12′s and they can earn 60K with OT. I work 40+ as a charge nurse with 20+ years and I’m even under 70K. If Kate worked in nursing full time, Jon in IT full time and there were still together, the still couldn’t afford that house. Do I think they need it? Not my call. Maybe they could live like the Duggars (who also live off TLC’s dime mind you) and shop at the Good Will. Good luck finding 8 shoes roughly the same size at Good Will. I guess though, with Kate’s organizational behavior she could run to Good Will daily for bargain hunting and size shopping. Oh the thought of it…. kind of funny. I’m sure she could make it work if that’s what she wanted to do, but it’s not my call to make.
Kat I agree with your post of April 3, 2:33 pm. Well said. I choose to see Kate as Kate and wish her well. She’s made decisions I never would have made, but that doesn’t necessarily make me right and her wrong. She’s also made decisions that I thought were very smart.
I am still waiting to see if DWTS was a bad decision, as trixie said, or a good one. I can see the editing may make it a bad move, especially after last week. OTOH, if she and Tony do well one of these weeks, that “spat” and the flak she took may help garner more sympathy. So much drama!
I agree with you Ann, Kat’s post is well said, especially her last paragraph.
The thing about the haters going all over the place and spreading their venom that they don’t realize….they are making Kate more popular. The site they’re infiltrating hits go up. While I think it’s rude and mean, etc, the more they go on, the more the hits register. So, that is the only positive thing I see about those morons posting. Do I think they need locked up? YES! They shouldn’t be near a keyboard.
I do think they are a bunch of ill-spirited, mean, low-life women. I feel sorry for their kids. Unfortunately, that behavior is filtering down to them somehow. To me, their behavior and mental capacity makes them the horrible moms. To harbor such hatred is not normal. You don’t teach that to your kids, whether verbally or sublimally or by example. They truly need help.
It makes me laugh that they’re always saying “how can she afford to live in that house”. Trolls, it’s not a mansion. She’s got the work and means to afford the house. She moved on from nursing. How many other people have switched careers over their lifetime? Do they get the grief Kate does? Nope. And, Kate has said if need be she can always turn back to nursing. She never put down the profession.
They are just jealous. That’s the bottom line. Kate has been able to transform herself sucessfully. She’s got the means and is around the right people. As with any healthy human being, she has been able to grow. She has allowed herself to grow and is teaching her kids to grow. There’s nothing wrong with that. That is the normal progression of a human being.
It’s nobody’s business how Kate raises her kids or the jobs she chooses. She’s a strong woman
of faith who is doing the best she can.
Kat, you are so right…the other side is horrible, ugly and sickening. They exhibit behaviors that should have them locked up, either in prison or a psych ward.
First off, I have never seen DWTS. I do agree with Poke my eyes out that DWTS is designed to ridicule their “celebs”. – Trixie
Ridicule is too strong a word, in my opinion. It is actually one of the more positive “reality” shows out there – which is one of the reasons I like it. Even in the past when stars didn’t do well, I don’t think the majority of the viewing audience was tuning in to see them fail (I certainly wasn’t). It may be different with Kate. She has a group of devoted haters who want to see her put in her place.
DWTS showcases the frustration and stress between partners at times, but it is hardly the main focus of the show. As Ann points out, things can change. People may begin to see that Kate took too much flak last week or DWTS may put a different slant with their editing this week or Kate may actually improve on Monday.
I think the jury is still out on how this will play out for Kate.
Wow. Ziggyflo is right on!!
Theresa, just because someone is not a superfan and is a fan of the kids does not make them a troll. The Gosselins are 10 people and Kate is just one of them. Their house cost 1.1 mill. That is not just a nice house that is beyond their capabilities at the moment. We live at 1/2 of our capabilities for we are conservative. Makes it easier to adjust during economic downturns. My my husband owns a dealership. You have to be realistic especially where kids are concerned. Now if TLC continues to pay the bills, there you go.
I will have to disagree about DWTS not ridiculing their contestants. Every year you hear the noise about someone is cheating on their spouse with the professional or some other crap. Not my cup of tea. Maybe I see more in her than this kind of junk. She is educated and should not be used to garner money for a corporation who wants to clown her out. After the whole TLC slant how will this ever help her?
I don’t go over to those other sites so I haven’t seen the posts but really who would be jealous of either Jon or Kate? The show has made them look pretty sad.
The pictures, those are definately bruises on that child.
RNs making good cash? Michigan, maybe that’s why there is now a 7 year wait to apply to nursing school. This is for RN not LPN or other lower nursing status. My niece just finished school for respitory therapy and landed a job that’s in the low 40s.
Trixie, people who talk rudely, meanly, and disparage those kids’ mother is a troll. I am a fanof the the kids and I know when I read something that is detrimental to them, that it most likely is coming from a troll, a person who spews forth only hate. If you don’t like the term, do not read my posts.
As for the house, so what if it’s $1.1 miilion? There are a lot of homes in the state of PA that are $1 million dollar homes.
YOU nor are any of us are not privvy to the Gosselins bank account. It’s not up to you to say if they can afford to stay in their house.
As for the picture, that is a definite shadow of the camera. Open your eyes Trixie and stop contributing to hateful behaviors and rumors that hurt the kids.
Trixie
I am an RN. I have a post graduate degree. We make a decent living. However the reason there is a wait list for schools is because there are not enough teachers. None of this really makes any difference but I just wanted to weigh in on this issue.
I copied this from a site discussing why there is a wait list:
Nationwide, colleges and universities are faced with a shortage of nursing teachers, because nurses who are qualified to teach can earn significantly more money working for hospitals, doctors, nursing homes, clinics and agencies. This means that there are not enough nursing teachers to teach nursing classes to all the students who want to get in, the waiting lists to get into traditional ADN and BSN nursing programs are only getting longer.
I did the 12 hour shift routine as an ICU-Open Heart-ER background from 1977 until 1994. Money varies from state to state and 12 hours shifts are not easy. I am not sure how easy it would have been for me to raise 8 children working those hours and in that environment.
The bottom line is that Kate should be able to work in whatever field she chooses. Her children will thrive given the right guidance regardless of what job or profession Kate chooses.
Wow. Ziggyflo is right on!!
Judy – great link, great blog on the subject.
If there are people that think she has no future in Hollywood they are in for a disappointment. This is the highest rated season of DWTS ever. The producers are crediting the cast, in particular Kate. So I think that her agents phone is ringing off the hook. Everyone wants those ratings. One of the highest paying shows of this type is Celebrity Apprentice. So watch for that to be next. The best part really is that without the vile crap on those blogs – she would probably already be a nurse in a modest home with 3 bedrooms and 2.5 baths. Those blogs and commentors have insured that she is a hot commodity and will be making big money for a while yet to come.
What we have seen of Kate prior on TLC says that she will take a dime and make it a dollar. Coupons and Old Navy. My guess is that she is squirreling away as much of this money as she can since she knows it will end someday. Look at Paris Hilton. She made millions doing nothing and now is just living the life. You hardly see her photo any more. If Kate is smart and invests she has insured the future she said she wanted for her kids. The vacations, the schooling, the comfortable home with room for everyone.
And if anyone is wondering what the children of these people bullying her are doing … they are bullying their schoolmates. Unfortunately children haven’t developed the skills to handle sick people like this. Children are killing themselves because of just the type of behavior these commentors are displaying.
Thanks for the blog link, Judy, there is a lot to agree with there.
I looked at the photos at ROL (are there others?) and I believe the child in question is Hannah? Those are not bruises, but the shadow effects from a white pine tree. Rest easy, trixie.
It probably a good thing to keep living at half your income, trixie, if your husband is still in the automotive industry. The economy is so tough right now, and not everyone has Kate’s Midas touch or ability to re-invent and move on. If Kate runs into trouble, we’ll notice her cutting back on the tanning appointments or putting the kids in public school first, right?
I agree that Kate is hot right now. I also attribute some of her success to the attention of her obsessive non-fans. Is Celebrity Apprentice next? Bring it on!
That was a GREAT blog link! And she is totally right on.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. As long as there are all of these people that are interested in what Kate does (either because they are K-Haters or because she is just fascinating), there is no way she can get back in to nursing. It’s just not possible.
Who CARES how she is making her money?!? I think she’ll be even better tomorrow now that the first elimination is out of the way, and I bet those kids are just so excited to see their Mommy on TV every Monday night (and good for her for not letting them watch the elimination shows – that’s just TOO much for a small child to understand).
I’ll be interested to see what these “custody” issues are, as I suspect Jon has had multiple extra opportunities to be with his kids, but is out doing whatever it is that he does instead. I know he’s a good Dad, but he obviously was never interested in being a stay-at-home dad, so why would he want to change that now? I get wanting to change child support, since he currently has no means of support, though…
I don’t remember what else I wanted to say. I have to go back to icing my face for my painful sinus infection.
I look forward to watching tomorrow night!
I meant to add, Theresa, it’s my turn to agree with you!
Feel better MamaP.
I just read the Ziggy blog. Agreed, agree and agree. I wonder how long it will take the haters to gum up (no pun intended) that blog.
Great blog entry from ziggyflo – thanks for linking to it.
Theresa, just because someone is not a superfan and is a fan of the kids does not make them a troll. The Gosselins are 10 people and Kate is just one of them. Their house cost 1.1 mill. That is not just a nice house that is beyond their capabilities at the moment. We live at 1/2 of our capabilities for we are conservative.
I think it’s bordering on trollish behavior to post things irresponsibly implying that the Gosselin children are abused. Certainly it’s very ugly behavior.
As for the cost of the Gosselin house, repeat after me, “It’s none of our business.” I swear to you, it really isn’t. Plenty of people have expensive homes; some can afford them better than others. It has nothing to do with you or me. Bully for you for being fiscally conservative. If you started wasting your money on fripperies, guess what? It wouldn’t be any of my business. You can do what you feel is right with your money but don’t expect a gold star when it doesn’t effect anyone but you.
I will have to disagree about DWTS not ridiculing their contestants. Every year you hear the noise about someone is cheating on their spouse with the professional or some other crap. Not my cup of tea. Maybe I see more in her than this kind of junk. She is educated and should not be used to garner money for a corporation who wants to clown her out. After the whole TLC slant how will this ever help her?
Didn’t you say that you hadn’t watched the show? I don’t know where you’re hearing this stuff “every year”, but I think you’re mistaken. I’ve watched for a number of seasons and have only heard one rumor (from quite a while ago) about a contestant cheating on his spouse with a dancer. Other than that, there are rumors about romances between unattached dancers and contestants, some of which turn out to be true (Derek Hough and Shannon Elizabeth were an item for a while) and many of which I think are just intended to create buzz and get votes *.
Forgive me if I find it hard to imagine the kind of project that people who dislike Kate would find appropriate for her. You’ll always find something to complain about. Even if she went back to nursing, Kate haters would find a way to turn it into a negative, even if all they do is insist that that is what she *should* do. Certainly, anything in the public eye or anything that makes Kate a fair amount of money is going to completely unacceptable to the haters.
FWIW, those absolutely do not look like bruises to me – if they were, I think they’d be an indication that Hannah had been in a pretty serious accident, and I think we would’ve heard about it. If they were indications of some sort of sinister abuse, as you imply, I would think she wouldn’t have been put in a sundress.
Theresa, just because someone is not a superfan and is a fan of the kids does not make them a troll. The Gosselins are 10 people and Kate is just one of them.
What I don’t understand is how a fan of the kids can disparage their mother so much. The kids love their mother and showing respect to the kids means showing respect to their mother. It doesn’t mean you have to say nice things about Kate if you don’t believe them but it does strike me that the adage “if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all” should apply to all those claiming to be fans of the kids.
First off, I have never seen DWTS. I do agree with Poke my eyes out that DWTS is designed to ridicule their “celebs”.
I have no idea how you can form a reasonable opinion on something you have never seen. I have watched DWTS – it has nothing to do with ridicule. I do think the “formula” for that show was getting old and the ratings were falling off big time. ABC and the producers know that Kate was a huge part of why the show’s ratings have gone back up; that is going to be good for Kate in the long run.
I don’t see how in the world they can afford that house. Something’s got to give. Neither of them having any hope of making anything in Hollywood, they should figure something out.
Kate is being credited with upping the ratings of DWTS. She will continue to get work and good for her. AS to how they can afford the house, it is none of our business. It amazes me how many people think that it is their business. As long as Kate is not asking for government hand outs or doing anything illegal, we have no say in where she chooses to live or how she chooses to make a living. Thank God for that because the opposite is true as well – no one else has any say in how we live our lives especially hateful strangers.
I agree with every one’s posts from 40 down. The Ziggy blog is spot on. That why I keep coming back . I also get tired about the remarks about the house and cost. It has nothing to do with”feeling for the children” if it did then you would read comments of not uprooting your children in the aftermath of a divorce. The last thing loving parents want to do in a divorce is to move their children into new homes. I hope Kate does well tonight! I have to work (: and will have to watch later.
Sundress straps don’t bruise. The shadow falls across the material. There is another pic of Hannah beaming as she collects eggs. This shows her from the front, and the same shadows fall across her face and chest (and dress.)
This is one of the many, many Gosselin rumors that really needs defending against or (imagine!) a retraction. I’m not holding my breath (I’m saving it for the next abuse allegation.)
Wow! What a great blog! It’s so refreshing to see the majority here that support Kate and the children. There’s really no dealing with the haters–obviously, they have issues in their own personal lives, and Kate has become the whipping post for all of their frustrations. The haters nit pick Kate 24/7!
The “Khaters” have become control freaks who have checked their common sense and decency at the door! In the beginning, I wasn’t a supporter of Kate, because I came in late on the Jon and Kate show, but when folks started their hate-filled ranting, I was appalled at the things they said–they were clearly out of control, and as the weeks passed during the divorce period, I became an ardent supporter of Kate and her children.
At this present time, I’m concerned about the new attorney and legal fees for Kate–Jon resents Kate making money with DWTS, and if he can’t have part of it, then she and the children can’t have it either, and I also wonder about the attorney’s motive for representing Jon–does he need the exposure in media to generate business? Well, I guess we’ll find out soon enough.
TLC’s contract is over this month with Jon–Jon doesn’t have a job; Jon has brought on himself, a lot of negative publicity–he has no money, and no place to live–desperate people do desperate things–my main concern for Kate and the children, is their physical safety–restraining orders aren’t worth the paper they are written on! Hopefully, TLC will have a 24/7 security on her and the children….
I agree w/ a PP about the people that write filth regarding Kate & her family- they are bullies. If they spew the filth at home like they do on the internet I feel sorry for their own family – maybe their children are the ones that need advocates!
Welcome to Imperfect Women Sheryl,
The “Khaters” have become control freaks who have checked their common sense and decency at the door!
Very true.
We appreciate your comments and look forward to your participation in the future.
Thank-you, Pam!
I believe Kate did much better last night on all fronts–she isn’t a dancer, but she’s giving it her all. I also think that the rehearsal time has been healing for her–we saw something in the clip with the other instructor, that we’ve suspected, but not known for sure–Kate has been hurting, and afraid to show her feelings–Tony even seemed protective of her last night, and he seemed happy with her performance too. Win or lose, Kate is on her way up!
If Jon wanted to spend so much time with his kids, why didn’t he pony up and say “Kate, go do this and I will watch the kids while you are off doing this” but NOOOOO…then he wouldn’t have a reason to go back to court to get custody and cut her off at the knees…he is a low-life of all low-lifes!! The only reason he wants custody is so that he can get the money and get to live in the big house, it isn’t for any other reason. He loathes her so much that he would do anything to get her back. I doubt that he would sit home like the “good dad” and take 100% care of them either.
Hi all, I haven’t been able to chime in this week as I have had my own drama to deal with (I had to have my little dog, Princess, put down) But I like the Ziggy blog. And I was thrilled that Kate wasn’t voted off again this week. I know she isn’t the best dancer on the show, but I admire her courage to try and step outside her comfort zone.
A short comment on the latest quotes from Jon’s new attorney, who hasn’t even filed anything yet, they are now saying they will be asking for spousal support from Kate (Jon really has hit rock bottom, no money, no home and no more women to mooch off) as well as modified custody arrangements. IMO, he probably hasn’t paid a dime of support and certainly has lost his swank NY apartment and all of this is a ploy for Jon to get her to cough up some cash and let him live in the house for awhile. If they were serious, papers would have been filed. And his present financial status will not actually get him spousal support, since he alone made all the bad decisions that got him into this mess to begin with.
Now, on to the Khaters. I totally agree that these people are bullies, just like the ones that drove that poor girl in Florida to commit suicide. I can’t abide their smug self righteous attitude that they, and they alone, know what Kate should do, where Kate should live and how Kate should spend her money. The arrogant presumption of omnipotence makes me furious. And the constant lies drive me squirrely. The name calling is appalling. I don’t understand how anyone can call a total stranger such filthy names. I think Kate is liked and admired by many more people than these idiots can grasp. Witness the fact that she has survivied the second elimination. I will vote for her as long as she’s on, just to show them that not everyone (as they continue to insist) hates her as much as they do. DO YOU HEAR ME KHATERS? I LIKE KATE!! I WISH HER NOTHING BUT SUCCESS AND JOY!! Put THAT in your pipes and smoke it!!
Bless you all.
Wowie! Back from a family vacation and I see my post has been ripped to shreds. I truly think I believe Kate has better qualities than you give her credit for.
Jennie you post is sooooo long and to cut and past the whole thing seems silly so I’ll just give quick replies. Most people who can easily afford a house/lifestyle don’t usually tell tv cameras how hard of a time they are having. Just saying. I have never seen shadows like that, especially the one that looks like a bite mark. Perhaps that is the child who went to the doctor the next day. If you read my post carefully, you will see I do not point any fingers. Most likely a child/child misadventure. I don’t get the “jump to conclusions” part. Sorry but I don’t have much sympathy for adults which is why I am in the business of child welfare. I love kids and can feel for any child who has any kind of injury. Let the snark fly! DWTS – you can’t for a minute really think this is anything but a show to make fun of stars on their way down. Have we ever seen anyone make a comback? Now if we agree TLC edited Kate to show her “mean” side then why would we want to see her on another show that shows more of the “mean” side? Just common sense. How is having every single Insider type show (for lack of a better term) discuss the gossip about her helpful? I would love to hear how this helps her credibility.
Forgive me if I find it hard to imagine the kind of project that people who dislike Kate would find appropriate for her. You’ll always find something to complain about. Even if she went back to nursing, Kate haters would find a way to turn it into a negative, even if all they do is insist that that is what she *should* do. Certainly, anything in the public eye or anything that makes Kate a fair amount of money is going to completely unacceptable to the haters.
I have always said she should wait for a decent project. Use her education and experience for a quality show. Something like hosting a show like “Baby Story” or other health related shows. Right now you can’t turn on a tv without catching Dr. Oz, or other health care professionals. Jump on that bandwagon! Show people you do have credibilty, education and insight into areas that all people face. DWTS was the worst thing she could have done and I wonder if TLC forced her. I can’t even watch George Lopez now, he had one some crazy judge from the show who ripped her apart. How is that helpful? Anyone? Anyone?
My point is, just because I think these horror shows are a bad idea you call me a troll. When really I see a better opportunity to use her brains, education and experience. Do you all not think she is any better than clowning out on a show like this? Just like you argued for days that she could not possibly speak at a certain sect of religion. I remember well that I said she was not a as closed minded. So please educate me on how she should make a mockery for some stupid show and how this helps her and her family. I say she is not a religious bigot and I also say she has the education and experience to do a quality show. Let the posts start!!!!!
More about me. I am not a superfan of any kind. I would never call into a show to vote, though don’t see anything wrong with others doing it. I don’t watch “reality” shows except for The Amazing Race. Don’t watch Idol, DWTS or anything on TLC. No Trump, no housewives. I do like Jamie Oliver and his show on now. I have a family, we are close. My dh and I are both very close with our siblings/family. I have a job and am active in the community. I like to see women succeed. I like to see everyone use education and dedication and hard work to do things that help society. Most of my charities surround children and the welfare of women and children in society.
Trixie, you said “Sorry but I don’t have much sympathy for adults which is why I am in the business of child welfare.” But then go on to say “I like to see women succeed. Most of my charities surround children and the welfare of women and children in society.”
I too worked in child welfare, it’s a very difficult field & unfortunately doesn’t have enough quality social workers. When a person has worked in child welfare for any amount of time, they start to see things or notice things that others don’t, ie: you say you see bruises/bite mark, others say they see shadows from a tree.
Even though you say you’re not trying to point fingers, your post reads like you are, IMO.
I find a couple of your remarks to be conflicting, namely the ones I quoted above. Maybe you were just trying to say that it bothers you when Kate comes off a little whiny about her issues when she has a lot to be grateful for.
I can have empathy for Kate’s situation. She is responsible for 8 children’s lives. I believe she took the opportunity of DWTS because it was a paycheck & the amount of time for the amount of $ was as Kate said in an interview “cost effective.”
Was the show a good move for her? Who knows for sure but I wish her luck & success because that means her children will be able to continue their current means & have some stability.
Trixie your remarks again conflict yourself yet again I have never seen shadows like that before,perhaps she was the child that went to the doctors the next day. The picture /article clearly states she went to the doctor and they picked up a prescription. There were many pictures of the children that day and Hannah is shown in a few more and there is no visible bruises. I stand on my statement yet again it was shadows from the way the picture taken.
The other comment about most people who can afford thier homes / lifestyles don’t talk about the hard time they are having. In general all Americans are feeling the pinch of the enconomy the rising cost of food, utilities , property taxes etc. I could understand Kate’s ongoing concerns/ fears about providing for 8 children at a minimum of the next 15 years. I can’t even imagine what the costs will be in 2023 for sending 8 children to college at that point all at the same time. In all fairness I think that is what Kate is referring to the present and the future since she is the one who will be providing the majority of the income to the household.
Trixie! You are back…I hope you had a great time on your vacation. I know you were telling us that your husband wasn’t doing well at his two jobs as automotive company executive and dealership owner and that you had to live on half his salary. I am so glad your cutting back didn’t mean you had to live more modestly as you said you were, and give up the vacation. Did you also enjoy celebrating Easter as a person with no religion who is also very active in her Catholic parish?
I agree that Kate is not a religious bigot, since she has never shown signs of any bigotry.
Your post is sooooo long, but I love cut and paste, so let the posting begin!
Most people who can easily afford a house/lifestyle don’t usually tell tv cameras how hard of a time they are having.-trixie
Kate has descibed herself as the sole support for 8 children and a single mother. She doesn’t cry poor. You just hear it that way.
DWTS – you can’t for a minute really think this is anything but a show to make fun of stars on their way down. Have we ever seen anyone make a comback?- trixie
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So please educate me on how she should make a mockery for some stupid show and how this helps her and her family.- trixie
I wasn’t so sure this was good for Kate either, but I understand why she took the job: it pays well. That’s how it helps her famil. I would ask, additionally, how it helps her career? The ratings spike has been attributed to her. I think that may make her more marketable for commercials, voice-overs, or other reality shows that use “stars.” I also think the jury is out on everything except the money. The pay is good and that helps the family. Ask Jon! He wants a piece of it, lol.
My point is, just because I think these horror shows are a bad idea you call me a troll.-trixie
Actually, your “ominous insider information” followed by your conflicting defense, blatant misrepresentation of others comments, subtle accusations of abuse by Kate Gosselin, and passive-agressive attacks on others makes you a troll, IMO.
More about me…-trixie
If you never watch DWTS, why would you conclude that it is just “a show to make fun of stars on their way down?” Why would you know one way or the other how the stars fared after appearing on the show? Wouldn’t you have to know what stars you are even talking about?
Could someone please give me a link to the pictures of the kids at the Easter Egg hunt that you’re all talking about? I can’t seem to find a link by myself. Also, all I could find on Nancy Grace was an interview with Jon’s new lawyer. She didn’t let him get away with the snarky comments about poor pitiful Jon, which I loved but I can’t find an interview with Jon himself. Or did I misunderstand and this was the interview?
That being said, I love these posts. I am quite a fan of Kate and the kids and I’m looking forward to her new show. The concept as described seems a bit fuzzy to me, but it sounds like something Kate will do really well. She has such a natural charm on camera.
One comment I’d like to make, There are now multiple interviews with people associated with DWTS where the celeb being interviewed denies seeing ANY diva behavior from Kate, and stating categorically that she is sweet, kind and polite to everyone. Brook Burke is one, the lady that did the day inside the hair and makeup trailer, and I can’t remember the third. Will the Khaters stop now? All they fixate on is the Bruno Toneoli interview where he said Kate is a dreadful dancer. Apparently, if you can’t dance well, you are certainly a person of very bad character and worse behavior. I think these people are just down right crazy. Kate didn’t threaten the producers with assassination if they didn’t put her on the show, they approached her and asked her to be on the show. She accepted a paying gig, why is that so wrong? She’s rehearsing at home in the basement, while the kids are in school. Do you expect her to hover outside the school all day, every day so she’s nearer to the kids? She leaves PA on Saturday late afternoon and takes the red eye back to PA on Tuesday night, so she’s home Wednesday morning. Three whole days !! What in the world is wrong with that? Kate’s costumes are terrible and that makes her a bad person? No, it makes the costume designer a bad costume designer. And, by the way, the costumes this year areawful, and for the most part don’t fit. I think they’re using a new person, who is just dreadful. Music is not good? People, the producers pick the music that the teams use. Everyone’s music. So if you don’t like the music, (I frequently don’t) blame the producers, not Kate. I mean, really? Get over your mean selves, please. You all need some intensive therapy.
That’s my rant for the day. Sorry, I just need to vent, I get so frustrated. Now I’m off to do my physical therapy.
Caren,
Nancy Grace recently talked about the Gosselins two nights in a row, though not exclusively. On April 8th, she talked about them later in the show and that is the transcript I posted here.
Transcript links:
April 7, 2010
April 8, 2010
Also, the pictures of the Easter egg hunt that I saw were at Radar Online and TMZ. Please note that it was a very sunny day on the Easy Coast the day before Easter. There may be more pictures out there. Here are two with the shadows/bruises across one child’s shoulders, clothing, and face.
(ROL) Shadows on her neck, shoulder, and dress strap
(TMZ) Same child, same shadows, across face and dress
Caren,
I meant to add that Nancy Grace did not recently interview Jon. She just interviewed his lawyer. Also, I am so sorry that you lost your Princess recently.
Thank you so much, Ann. That is very sweet of you. I know it’s silly and I’m a full fledged cliche, but she was my little girl (even tho she was a dog) and a sweet companion for me. I got her from a rescue group. She had been a breeding dog in a puppy mill and suffered so much. Her right front leg was broken and never set, when the rescue group took her to the vet to be spayed he also had to pull all of her teeth, except a few on the bottom front, to keep her jaw from reabsorbing, and she was blind from severe cateracts. So, my comfort is, she had seven years with me that were really cushy. I was able to give her love and good food and medical care and cuddled her every day. I miss her, but I had to let her go, she was going to die anyway, I just wanted it to be easier than it would have been otherwise.
Rescue dogs rule.
And thanks for the links, it’s much appreciated.
You are not silly at all, Caren. I know that is very hard. It took 12 years before I said yes to another dog in my life, because losing the first was very painful. But look at our little pup in the corner. She’s such a sweet addition to the family, I am so glad my daughter pestered enough.
Caren, my sympathies for your loss. It’s never silly to grieve for a loved one, it doesn’t matter if they’re fuzzy. Her name sounds like it was perfect for her. I’m glad she had you to give her such a nice life after the mill.
So, my comfort is, she had seven years with me that were really cushy. – Caren
I know the pain is raw now. You are missing your baby, but I think it is wonderful that Princess got those seven years with you living in style and comfort.
There are quite a few animal lovers (especially dogs) among our regulars, so believe me, we all have empathy for what you are going through.
Hugs to you!
Caren, I just wanted to post the quote from Brooke Burke that you referenced. I thought about posting the video in a separate post, but anyone who wants to see it, it is available on the Access Hollywood website.
Brooke Burke: “It’s really interesting. I haven’t seen anything from Kate other than loveliness and happiness and kindness,” Brooke told Access. “I think she’s really frightened and she’s going through a lot of stress on the show. I want her to pull through this and succeed, I really do. I want her to conquer this for her own self as a woman and as a mother.”
Brooke went on to say that she has spent one-on-one time with Kate. Brooke came off very genuine in the video I saw. I didn’t get the sense she was just giving the politically correct answer expected from the co-host of DWTS. She seemed to feel strongly about what she was saying.
I think the third person you are thinking of might be Mark Ballas? I have the feeling he was embarressed that his initial off-the-cuff comments about Kate were blown out of proportion and he has now said on a couple of different occasions that people need to cut her more slack.
Caren, so sorry to hear about your dog. It sounds like you gave her a great life. Don’t feel silly; it’s so hard to lose beloved pets.
Trixie! You are back…I hope you had a great time on your vacation. I know you were telling us that your husband wasn’t doing well at his two jobs as automotive company executive and dealership owner and that you had to live on half his salary. I am so glad your cutting back didn’t mean you had to live more modestly as you said you were, and give up the vacation. Did you also enjoy celebrating Easter as a person with no religion who is also very active in her Catholic parish?
We had a great time, thanks! My dh owns a dealership. He is an owner so he doesn’t get a paycheck but profits. He can hire himself and get a check and he has in the past. Now he is trying not to lay anyone off. We have not been impacted yet. In fact my job is calling for over time since we know that economic downturns can cause families chaos. We live at 1/2 our capabilities because we are economically conservative and always have been. We always make sure I can afford the mortgage on my own without any budget trimmings. His earnings are for investments, savings and our kids college. This way we have room for trouble if needed. We think it’s important that our kids live a working class lifestyle. We basically give them a nice Christmas and birthday and pretty much nothing else. They have to work for their pocket money. We feed, clothe, educate and give them the best medical care. They need to learn to work for what you want in life and to save.
I don’t believe in God or religion but I do believe in humanity. I believe in giving back and to be active in the community. I am active in the charity aspect of the Catholic church, our county food bank, ACLU, NAACP and my husband is very active in military food banks and housing programs. My son is in his “required” religious training but I rarely enter the sanctuary. I have followed my parents in this. Our whole side of the family is athiest but we all are involved in charity work. My husband’s family have faith but many have turned their backs on organized religion.
On Kate and the family: I still think this was a bad move. After seeing that weird judge on George Lopez I am even more convinced. He was a character and not in a good way. He was quite mean on his remarks. I think it set her back. I truly hope she succeeds in something with credibility and can give the kids a good life. Their dad has completely lost his mind and I don’t want to see her as a laughing stock too. You can’t watch any channel now without the non-ending poor comments on her. This can’t be good. I clicked on the article in an above post and really you can’t compare her to Lopez who had a career prior to the show or Marie Osmond who can always work Vegas. Let’s be practical, she is only known because the kids are adorable. She needs to build her own career with her own talents. Her education and experience in the health field would be the best way to break in. She should get far away from the circus shows that thrive on gossip. Just my opinion.