Comments on: State Of The Union http://www.imperfectwomen.com/state-of-the-union/ Just another WordPress weblog Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:25:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: SadStateofAffairs http://www.imperfectwomen.com/state-of-the-union/comment-page-1/#comment-9581 SadStateofAffairs Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:47:57 +0000 http://www.imperfectwomen.com/?p=6195#comment-9581 I liked it more at the beginning than at the end. First off, too many damn standing ovations. That is really polarizing and makes things drag out too long and gives this impression that he's such a celebrity people are wacky about him. I think they ought to limit applause to five or ten times per speech although that is not HIS fault. I always am impressed by how well he speaks and how heart felt it seems, and I agree with his stand on many issues. We can't give Bush 8 years to dig us into a hole then expect Obama to get us out in one year, either. However, he did seem to embody exactly what people are saying in the more conservative papers - the Wall Street Journal for instance - that he tries to do too MUCH, cover to omuch ground. He needed to hit the high points and stick on those, jobs, ending the war, getting some kind of improvements in health coverage and insurance - instead, he went off all over creation with gays in the military and childhood obesity and this, that and the other. As we said in the Clinton era, "It's the economy, stupid." Let's just focus on that and maybe one or two other hot topics like the wars and health care instead of setting expectations that you are going to solve world hunger and hang nails and everything in between, because if you focus on everything you can't do anything. That is the issue I would have - you can't please all the people all the time and trying to do so means taking your eye off the ball. In America people will be much happier and more forgiving and generous on other topics, if they have jobs and can put food on the table. I liked it more at the beginning than at the end. First off, too many damn standing ovations. That is really polarizing and makes things drag out too long and gives this impression that he’s such a celebrity people are wacky about him. I think they ought to limit applause to five or ten times per speech although that is not HIS fault.
I always am impressed by how well he speaks and how heart felt it seems, and I agree with his stand on many issues. We can’t give Bush 8 years to dig us into a hole then expect Obama to get us out in one year, either. However, he did seem to embody exactly what people are saying in the more conservative papers – the Wall Street Journal for instance – that he tries to do too MUCH, cover to omuch ground. He needed to hit the high points and stick on those, jobs, ending the war, getting some kind of improvements in health coverage and insurance – instead, he went off all over creation with gays in the military and childhood obesity and this, that and the other.
As we said in the Clinton era, “It’s the economy, stupid.” Let’s just focus on that and maybe one or two other hot topics like the wars and health care instead of setting expectations that you are going to solve world hunger and hang nails and everything in between, because if you focus on everything you can’t do anything. That is the issue I would have – you can’t please all the people all the time and trying to do so means taking your eye off the ball. In America people will be much happier and more forgiving and generous on other topics, if they have jobs and can put food on the table.

]]> By: Holly http://www.imperfectwomen.com/state-of-the-union/comment-page-1/#comment-9575 Holly Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:02:41 +0000 http://www.imperfectwomen.com/?p=6195#comment-9575 I agree that the President did a good job speaking with the Republicans yesterday. I think it was a very healthy discussion. The truth will be if he lets the Republicans in on the actual policy making. The election in Mass was the latest event in a chain of events. The change of Parties in the Governors race in N.J. and VA and this Senate race in Mass. is a trend that cannot be ignored. These are not Red States they are true Blue States and to ignore the trend is ignorant. Even the President and his Party have stated over and over that Mass. was a big deal. I agree with Mary, give us the Health Insurance that the Congress has and everyone will be in favor of it. She is also correct that in the "newest version" of the Health Care Bill the people who will be hurt the most will be the elderly. They will cut Medicare Benefits by almost one third to help pay for the new Bill. I want the President to succeed, he is my President, but he will only succeed by listening to the majority of the Country, not the far Left or Right. I hope my state, CA follows the trend of Mass. and votes out the politicians who have been running this State forever, they do not represent me, and are killing the State! I agree that the President did a good job speaking with the Republicans yesterday. I think it was a very healthy discussion. The truth will be if he lets the Republicans in on the actual policy making.
The election in Mass was the latest event in a chain of events. The change of Parties in the Governors race in N.J. and VA and this Senate race in Mass. is a trend that cannot be ignored. These are not Red States they are true Blue States and to ignore the trend is ignorant. Even the President and his Party have stated over and over that Mass. was a big deal.
I agree with Mary, give us the Health Insurance that the Congress has and everyone will be in favor of it. She is also correct that in the “newest version” of the Health Care Bill the people who will be hurt the most will be the elderly. They will cut Medicare Benefits by almost one third to help pay for the new Bill.
I want the President to succeed, he is my President, but he will only succeed by listening to the majority of the Country, not the far Left or Right. I hope my state, CA follows the trend of Mass. and votes out the politicians who have been running this State forever, they do not represent me, and are killing the State!

]]> By: Mary http://www.imperfectwomen.com/state-of-the-union/comment-page-1/#comment-9570 Mary Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:35:39 +0000 http://www.imperfectwomen.com/?p=6195#comment-9570 Holly if the President will give us the same Health care plan that he and the congress have!! Then maybe we can talk!! The Elderly are the one's who are really hurting. Just makes me angry, that we can promise millions to other Countries, when we need to take care of our own first. It breaks my heart to see our Elderly out working to cover their Medical Insurance rates. Makes me sick to have an elderly woman lay down in front of her stove with no fuel and freeze to death. Makes me angry that the elderly SS benefits are cut and are so low, they can't afford to buy themselves fruit. This bail out money to these high class crooks!!! Then not make them accountable!! Cutting thousands of jobs, people loosing their homes, their jobs, their dignity. Yes the people are speaking!! Obama was voted in because we wanted a change. Thousands, upon, thousands of illegals working, and not paying taxes. Russians, Mexicans, Haitians. Then not only that!! Slap us in the face again and give them all the free medical they want. All the money the Government spends to improve roads, parks, government buildings, and who knows what else? I say stop the wasteful spending and for the next ten years. Take care of our people first!!! Holly if the President will give us the same Health care plan that he and the congress have!! Then maybe we can talk!! The Elderly are the one’s who are really hurting. Just makes me angry, that we can promise millions to other Countries, when we need to take care of our own first. It breaks my heart to see our Elderly out working to cover their Medical Insurance rates. Makes me sick to have an elderly woman lay down in front of her stove with no fuel and freeze to death. Makes me angry that the elderly SS benefits are cut and are so low, they can’t afford to buy themselves fruit.
This bail out money to these high class crooks!!! Then not make them accountable!!
Cutting thousands of jobs, people loosing their homes, their jobs, their dignity.
Yes the people are speaking!! Obama was voted in because we wanted a change.
Thousands, upon, thousands of illegals working, and not paying taxes. Russians, Mexicans, Haitians. Then not only that!! Slap us in the face again and give them all the free medical they want.
All the money the Government spends to improve roads, parks, government buildings, and who knows what else? I say stop the wasteful spending and for the next ten years. Take care of our people first!!!

]]> By: Lynn http://www.imperfectwomen.com/state-of-the-union/comment-page-1/#comment-9569 Lynn Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:32:25 +0000 http://www.imperfectwomen.com/?p=6195#comment-9569 <blockquote> Why bother with those cumbersome presidential elections, then? <em>I don’t know what this has to do with my post! </em> </blockquote> Because you said this: <blockquote> 60,000 more people voted for Brown than the amount of people who voted for Jon McCain in the Presidential Election in the whole Country. They voted this way because they “did not want the Health Care Bill shoved down their throats”... </blockquote> It's the same mistake that political commentators made on this, imo. Taking this single event and saying "the <strong>people spoke</strong>". It's very convenient for political commentators to say that, because it gives them the raw meat they need to feed on for their "sky is falling" journalistic drama. I'm just expressing my own personal skepticism over the idea that one senatorial election should dictate to the President that he should turn a 180 on his own political philosophy <strong>and</strong> on the results of the presidential election that was held only a little over a year ago. I thought the President demonstrated pretty good listening skills at the discussion he participated in with Republican lawmakers today.

Why bother with those cumbersome presidential elections, then?
I don’t know what this has to do with my post!

Because you said this:

60,000 more people voted for Brown than the amount of people who voted for Jon McCain in the Presidential Election in the whole Country. They voted this way because they “did not want the Health Care Bill shoved down their throats”…

It’s the same mistake that political commentators made on this, imo. Taking this single event and saying “the people spoke“. It’s very convenient for political commentators to say that, because it gives them the raw meat they need to feed on for their “sky is falling” journalistic drama. I’m just expressing my own personal skepticism over the idea that one senatorial election should dictate to the President that he should turn a 180 on his own political philosophy and on the results of the presidential election that was held only a little over a year ago.

I thought the President demonstrated pretty good listening skills at the discussion he participated in with Republican lawmakers today.

]]> By: Holly http://www.imperfectwomen.com/state-of-the-union/comment-page-1/#comment-9566 Holly Sat, 30 Jan 2010 05:09:56 +0000 http://www.imperfectwomen.com/?p=6195#comment-9566 Why bother with those cumbersome presidential elections, then? I don't know what this has to do with my post! Nowhere in my response did I say that President Obama was not my President and that I didn't want him to succeed. I just was stating my concerns with the reality of what is actually going on rather than what he is said in his speech. I agree there needs to be Health Care Reform. If the Congress had conviction in the Plan that was being proposed they would have passed it already. For a year they had the majority and did not need one Republican to vote for it. What people were mad about is that it took "bribery" of Senators, like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu, to get the 60 votes they needed. Now because of the outcry of their constituents both those Senators are taking back their vote. Even with the millions of dollars they got for their states, the people still did not want to have that Health Care Bill forced on them. What I want is the Health Insurance Plan that the Congress has. Why is there an exemption in the Bill that they can keep their Cadillac Plan when the average citizen is being mandated to accept a plan that is inferior to their own. If the plan is that good than each member of Congress and the President should have the same plan. I hate that they think the Public is so stupid and that they "know better"! Why bother with those cumbersome presidential elections, then?
I don’t know what this has to do with my post! Nowhere in my response did I say that President Obama was not my President and that I didn’t want him to succeed. I just was stating my concerns with the reality of what is actually going on rather than what he is said in his speech. I agree there needs to be Health Care Reform. If the Congress had conviction in the Plan that was being proposed they would have passed it already. For a year they had the majority and did not need one Republican to vote for it. What people were mad about is that it took “bribery” of Senators, like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu, to get the 60 votes they needed. Now because of the outcry of their constituents both those Senators are taking back their vote. Even with the millions of dollars they got for their states, the people still did not want to have that Health Care Bill forced on them.
What I want is the Health Insurance Plan that the Congress has. Why is there an exemption in the Bill that they can keep their Cadillac Plan when the average citizen is being mandated to accept a plan that is inferior to their own. If the plan is that good than each member of Congress and the President should have the same plan. I hate that they think the Public is so stupid and that they “know better”!

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