Comments on: The White House Vs. Fox News

By: Wendy

Wendy — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:08:58 +0000

BTW I love Jon Stewart, and think Glen Beck and Keith Olberman are a few bricks shy of a full load.
Just my opinion .

By: Wendy

Wendy — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:51:54 +0000

I don’t think it is disingenuous to call out MSNBC, because it exposes the hypocrisy of the arguments.
#1 I don’t think MSNBC’s bias is in question. Chris Matthews has stated that(in between leg tingles)it is his job to make sure Obama’s policies succeed. Bias much?
#2 MSNBC did not have any problem trashing the Bush administration on a daily basis.
#3 If the Obama administration can benefit from the fawning at MSNBC, then they should be big boys and girls and accept what goes on at FOX with good grace.
MSNBC’s “news” broadcasts are every bit as slanted as their commentators’ shows. They zero in on the wackadoodles in any opposing crowd. I heard one “news anchor” talking about how great it would be if the unemployment percentage could stay below 10% for Obama’s popularity. This was during a news broadcast. Not hoping for good employment numbers for the country–worrying about Obama’s popularity.
I don’t think the attention should be on FOX at all. I think it should be on a thin skinned administration. The same people that lauded the wonderful dissension against the Bush administration and its policies as fundamentally American, are the ones whining the loudest.
I am not George Bush’s biggest fan by any stretch, but what is good for the goose is good for the gander. I really don’t want news outlets that only agree with any administration.
Lastly, I love Joe Scarborough, too.

By: Jennie@IW

Jennie@IW — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 08:24:52 +0000

I thought this piece from “The Daily Show” had some good points to make about how Fox is different:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-29-2009/for-fox-sake-

I’d like to point out that there is a difference between what goes on in the editorial/opinion shows on Fox (and other networks) and the actual “news” segments on these channels. Furthermore, I don’t know that Fox necessarily tries to find the most reasonable and articulate representatives of opposing viewpoints on their various editorial shows (Hannity, O’Reilly), which calls into question the value of even having opposing viewpoints. Finally, it seems a little disingenuous to draw attention away from Fox and towards MSNBC – if MSNBC has a bias, and whether it’s as bad/not as bad/worse than Fox’s, that doesn’t really address Fox’s bias, or the White House’s issues with Fox’s bias. While it’s fair to expect some impartiality from the President and the White House, it doesn’t really seem reasonable to expect them to be as offended or distressed by bias in their favor as by bias that’s against them. If only for the simple reason that the latter tends to cause them problems and lead to issues with the carrying out of their agenda.

By: Anya

Anya — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 01:46:53 +0000

Pam, well there you go – proof positive the Obama administration’s strategy is not effective.

I have a slight crush on “Morning Joe”, Joe Scarborough. Wish I could see is program more often.

By: Pam

Pam — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:21:12 +0000

I just read where Fox News had a good week. Its ratings rose 8 percent in the two weeks since White House aides labled it ” a wing of the Republican Party.”

By: Ann@IW

Ann@IW — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 20:52:12 +0000

Jeff, you are probably right about Olbermann and Rachel Maddow (I don’t watch at that time.) In the morning, MSNBC has a show called “Morning Joe” and it is hosted by Joe Scarborough (sp.?) He’s Republican. He often has Pat Buchanan on as a commentator. It’s a pretty fair show. I like it because it is more serious than the FOX News show.

By: Erin@IW

Erin@IW — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:16:13 +0000

P.S. I had to go to those blogs for the soundbites becaused Youtube is down. Darn Youtube!

By: Erin@IW

Erin@IW — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:15:13 +0000

I disagree strongly with the notion that Fox is "the worst in the country" at trying to influnece opinion and that MSNBC is somehow even slightly less "eggregious." MSNBC just 2 weeks ago ran stories with flat out lies about so-called statements made by Rush Limbaugh. Think what you want about Rush Limbaugh and his politics but the point is that they had absolutely no source for these statements but a Wikepedia entry. All of the disgusting statements were proven to be false. Did MSNBC apologize? Furthermore, MSNBC basically admits to existing to support the President's agenda. MSNBC twists the truth and attacks. I, too, make it a point to watch MSNBC. Keith Olbermann rarely has a counterargument to things said on Fox. He just attacks personally. Here is just a sampling of the ultra fair treatment that is given on MSNBC http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/13/video-matthews-muses-on-killing-rush-limbaugh/ Here is a segment from John Gibson. Yes, he's from Fox news but has some interesting sound bites that illustrates my other point about MSNBC and their love affair with Obama. http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2009/10/john_gibson_who.php#comments MSNBC is just as "divisive" as Fox news supposedly is. And there is clear media bias in NBC, ABC, CBS and CNN. It took then 2 weeks to start covering the ACORN videos that surfaced. They didn't start coverving Van Jones until after he left office (On a Sunday of a Holiday weekend at Midnight. No strategery there by the Obama administration, right?). Just my opinion.....

By: Wendy

Wendy — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:59:13 +0000

I agree Jeff. I watch Olberman on occasion, too. He never has a different opinion on, and he always starts the “interview” feeding the thought to his guest. It is truly amazing.
BTW–Fox ratings are even higher since this has started. I’m afraid, as with many of President Obama’s policies, this is one more unintended consequence.

By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:15:24 +0000

I am a republican (although I am greatly disappointed at the Bush Admin. for the economic decisions over the last 8 years) and I watch FOX every day, but I go out of my way to watch Olberman, Maddow and Bill Maher at least once a week. I have never seen a conservative on those shows (when they are rarely on) treated fairly and allowed to answer the questions asked without being cut off or ridiculed. Fox ALWAYS has a liberal or democrat (I think they are different) on when having a discussion on an issue. Bob Beckel is on at least 3 times a week on Hannity and he states himself that hannity treats him fairly. What scares the White House is that they know there are tens of thousands of independents or undecideds watching FOX every day. Hannity spent one hour last week with Michael Moore and even though they disagreed on every issue, Moore stated that he enjoyed the back and forth. Ever see Ann Coulter on Olberman?